Barta is "Thrilled" With the Way Recruiting is Going: Raise Coming?

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iowalaw

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It sounds like Fran already negotiated a raise two years ago and is in the works on negotiating another big raise at this moment. Is that really needed? Are other schools knocking on his door? Unlikely.

I am as glad as anyone that the team has been improving from the laughing stock it was under Lick, but did we not lose 7 of our last 8 games? Were we not the 67th team selected for the NCAA tourney last year, which is our VERY best season under Fran? Most importantly, isn't this year's recruiting class of four guys ranked 11th in the Big 10, while last year's was ranked 12th in the Big 10? Improvement is nice, but is it really necessary to dole out huge raises any time a coach's team shows a pulse?

Barta employed this raise system under Ferentz. Ferentz cashed in and exploited it more than any coach in modern college football history. Let's not make the same mistake with Fran, as he still has yet to win a single NCAA tournament game going into his 5th year at Iowa. He also has yet to reel in a single blue chip recruit from outside the state of Iowa.

Here's an idea...isn't a multi million dollar long-term contract through 2019 a reward in and of itself? Why don't we reserve raises for sweet 16 appearances and Big 10 championships? Do we forget that Fran's salary already jumped by 10x when he got a promotion of a lifetime to leave Sienna for Iowa. Let's have a CEO with a little bit of common sense in the salary department for a change.

http://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sp...brown-barta-pleased-mccaffery-staff/18981013/
 
I understand what you're saying. To me, the recruits he is bringing in and our record should be the minimum expectation at Iowa really, and why he gets paid 1.8mil. How many of us get a big raise and extension just for doing our job as expected? If he brings in blue chips and takes this program to sweet sixteens etc. I completely understand rewarding him for going above and beyond the starting point of expectations.
If anything, the assistants deserve the raise. They spend a tremendous amount of time on the road away from their families.
 
iowalaw said:
It sounds like Fran already negotiated a raise two years ago and is in the works on negotiating another big raise at this moment. Is that really needed? Are other schools knocking on his door? Unlikely.

I am as glad as anyone that the team has been improving from the laughing stock it was under Lick, but did we not lose 7 of our last 8 games? Were we not the 67th team selected for the NCAA tourney last year, which is our VERY best season under Fran? Most importantly, isn't this year's recruiting class of four guys ranked 11th in the Big 10, while last year's was ranked 12th in the Big 10? Improvement is nice, but is it really necessary to dole out huge raises any time a coach's team shows a pulse?

Barta employed this raise system under Ferentz. Ferentz cashed in and exploited it more than any coach in modern college football history. Let's not make the same mistake with Fran, as he still has yet to win a single NCAA tournament game going into his 5th year at Iowa. He also has yet to reel in a single blue chip recruit from outside the state of Iowa.

Here's an idea...isn't a multi million dollar long-term contract through 2019 a reward in and of itself? Why don't we reserve raises for sweet 16 appearances and Big 10 championships? Do we forget that Fran's salary already jumped by 10x when he got a promotion of a lifetime to leave Sienna for Iowa. Let's have a CEO with a little bit of common sense in the salary department for a change.

http://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sp...brown-barta-pleased-mccaffery-staff/18981013/
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I don't have that strong of an opinion one way or the other...can see your point. But those extra 5,000 people attending each home game are generating a lot of revenue...far more than the raise will likely cost.
 
I'm kinda torn on giving Fran any more pay raises at the moment. He's done an excellent job of bringing the program back from the dead and turning out a couple straight 20+ win seasons, and the future of the program does seem bright, but facts are facts - Iowa is still seeking its first NCAA Tournament win since 2001.

Basically, I'd like to see Fran's teams win an NCAA game or two before handing out much more cash. If Iowa makes the Sweet 16 this year (or even wins its first round game), then I'm OK with it.
 
No raise for Fran this year. If Iowa can make the Big Dance this year, then we can talk. I would want to see Iowa firmly in before I start talking contract extensions.
 
I am ok with raises, as long as the contract length is the same.

We need to keep Fran happy, and with a contract that covers 4 years to allow for recruiting.

It is justifiable just on the attendance rise alone.

The going rate in the Big Ten is around 1.8 million or more, so it is not like he is being paid above average.
 
count me as another who is thrilled with the recruiting and the program so far under Fran. If he wants a raise and it helps keep him in Iowa City, I'm all for it.
 
iowalaw said:
It sounds like Fran already negotiated a raise two years ago and is in the works on negotiating another big raise at this moment. Is that really needed? Are other schools knocking on his door? Unlikely.

I am as glad as anyone that the team has been improving from the laughing stock it was under Lick, but did we not lose 7 of our last 8 games? Were we not the 67th team selected for the NCAA tourney last year, which is our VERY best season under Fran? Most importantly, isn't this year's recruiting class of four guys ranked 11th in the Big 10, while last year's was ranked 12th in the Big 10? Improvement is nice, but is it really necessary to dole out huge raises any time a coach's team shows a pulse?

Barta employed this raise system under Ferentz. Ferentz cashed in and exploited it more than any coach in modern college football history. Let's not make the same mistake with Fran, as he still has yet to win a single NCAA tournament game going into his 5th year at Iowa. He also has yet to reel in a single blue chip recruit from outside the state of Iowa.

Here's an idea...isn't a multi million dollar long-term contract through 2019 a reward in and of itself? Why don't we reserve raises for sweet 16 appearances and Big 10 championships? Do we forget that Fran's salary already jumped by 10x when he got a promotion of a lifetime to leave Sienna for Iowa. Let's have a CEO with a little bit of common sense in the salary department for a change.

http://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sp...brown-barta-pleased-mccaffery-staff/18981013/
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Well said! Completely agree. Barta sure seems to jump the gun quite a bit. It's as if he rewards coaches for mediocrity. If Fran can make Iowa more than that then sure give him an extension but not right now.
 
TheIowaHawkGuy said:
Well said! Completely agree. Barta sure seems to jump the gun quite a bit. It's as if he rewards coaches for mediocrity. If Fran can make Iowa more than that then sure give him an extension but not right now.
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Agreed. I would also rather reward our coaches for performance, not longevity.

That shouldn't be interpreted as a knock on Fran, just that I want to see him get this program to the next step and make us an annual fixture in the NCAA Tournament, or at least most years. Like the Mr. Davis years, at least.
 
JHHawk said:
I am ok with raises, as long as the contract length is the same.

We need to keep Fran happy, and with a contract that covers 4 years to allow for recruiting.

It is justifiable just on the attendance rise alone.

The going rate in the Big Ten is around 1.8 million or more, so it is not like he is being paid above average.
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If that's the case, then OK - I'd be fine with him making a little more. Let's just not go ballistic with it (are you listening Gary Barta?)
 
The program was in the gutter, I feel like he probably deserves one. No KF type contracts, just pay the guy a bit more for what he's done for the program.
 
lol, i got a thumbs down for saying I am thrilled with this class and the job Fran's done. This is a good class, and I think we get Santos to verbal soon for 2016. If you've got issues with the job Fran is doing, I'm not sure you've followed the program for very long.
 
InGoodCo said:
lol, i got a thumbs down for saying I am thrilled with this class and the job Fran's done. This is a good class, and I think we get Santos to verbal soon for 2016. If you've got issues with the job Fran is doing, I'm not sure you've followed the program for very long.
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The thumbs up/down thing is a stupid feature IMO. If you disagree, respond and say why instead of leaving an anonymous drive-by thumbs down.
 
His salary looks pretty good compared to other coaches around the nation. A lot of good/great coaches have salaries less than 2 million. Jim Boeheim and Roy Williams among them. To think that Frans salary is in their neighborhood is pretty crazy.
 
Also, I think there very well could be schools knocking on Fran's door very soon if they haven't already. The turn around he did at Iowa is nothing short of remarkable. I'll agree that you don't need to tack on years, but to think that Fran doesn't have any suitors is silly. The fact that Mike Brey at ND continues to flirt with the hot seat (even though he does have a long contract in place) and Fran having spent close to a decade there as an assistant should make anyone smart enough to handle a crayon to be able to connect those dots.
 
InGoodCo said:
Also, I think there very well could be schools knocking on Fran's door very soon if they haven't already. The turn around he did at Iowa is nothing short of remarkable. I'll agree that you don't need to tack on years, but to think that Fran doesn't have any suitors is silly. The fact that Mike Brey at ND continues to flirt with the hot seat (even though he does have a long contract in place) and Fran having spent close to a decade there as an assistant should make anyone smart enough to handle a crayon to be able to connect those dots.
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Could be mistaken, but didn't Mrs. M also play college hoops at ND?
 
^3 year starter and 1,000 pt scorer. Brey has a contract longer then Kirk Ferentz, so I'm not all that worried, but to say that Fran isn't a wanted commodity in the college basketball world after what he's done at Iowa is false.
 
Being thrilled with the 11th ranked class in the Big 10 is, in fact, thumbs down worthy. If you are thrilled with guys with mid major offers, how would you be reacting if we had the 3rd ranked class in the Big 10?

Unfortunately, you are what is wrong with Iowa athletics. Fans being thrilled with mediocrity. Being thrilled just to play in a bowl game. Being thrilled with an NIT run that nets us 20 wins.

Try setting your standards a little higher. Our athletic budget is one of the highest in the country. Our coaches are some of the highest paid in the country. Our facilities are well above average. If you are thrilled with below average recruiting classes and not even being the top team in the state of Iowa, you probably are not in management of any kind.


InGoodCo said:
lol, i got a thumbs down for saying I am thrilled with this class and the job Fran's done. This is a good class, and I think we get Santos to verbal soon for 2016. If you've got issues with the job Fran is doing, I'm not sure you've followed the program for very long.
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InGoodCo said:
^3 year starter and 1,000 pt scorer. Brey has a contract longer then Kirk Ferentz, so I'm not all that worried, but to say that Fran isn't a wanted commodity in the college basketball world after what he's done at Iowa is false.
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Ok, so there's definitely a lot of ties between ND and the Mcafferys. So let's just hope that Iowa makes the Sweet 16 this year and Iowa gives Fran a good pay raise so that it's moot point if/when Brey gets canned a couple years down the road. :cool:
 
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