Barta: Iowa-ISU Series Faces Roadblocks with 9 Game League Schedules

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“It’s going to have to sync up,â€￾ Barta said Tuesday. “We’re (Iowa and Iowa State officials) both going to have to do everything we can to keep it going. I don’t even want to predict whether or not what would be the scenario that wouldn’t. It’s going to depend on both of our conferences. If we both go to nine games and if we both get into a situation where one of us would lose out on seven home games, that would probably trigger a tough discussion.â€￾
 
This could potentially work out if the two schools have the extra conference home game in alternate years. Then one of the schools each year would likely be willing to play an away non-conference game. The big downside is that Iowa will likely only schedule one BCS school for the nonconference slate each year and they would be locked in to Iowa St every year. No more Pac 10 teams or Big East teams like we have had in recent years.

The series MIGHT continue under this circumstance but likely would not be an every year game. If the schools have 4 conference home games the same years, the series is dead.
 
Good riddance! Nothing good in this series for Iowa nationally. If we win, big deal we were supposed to. If we lose, we are labeled as a bad team. No win in this game.
 
Why is this any different than it was for years when there were 8 conference games in an 11 game season?

I don't recall any angst then. They just scheduled/played the game.
 
IA/ISU is a good game instate, but if Iowa's intent is national, we need a better rivalry.

DrKnipe"... we win, big deal we were supposed to. If we lose, we are labeled as a bad team. No win in this game. " That says it all.
 
KingClone, when there were 11 games the visitor would still only have 5 away games, but now if there were 5 Conference away games and the Iowa/ISU game away it would mean less revenue and a harder path to a bowl game with 6 away games.
 
I'd say it is more complicated than just getting the 4 home game years to match up. You don't know if you are playing a conference game in the second or third week of the season. It will take 10 or more weeks to play the 9 game schedule.
 
KingClone said:
Why is this any different than it was for years when there were 8 conference games in an 11 game season?

I don't recall any angst then. They just scheduled/played the game.
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Honestly, Clone fans should be the happiest to hear this sort of thing. Instead of getting beat, you can schedule a cupcake and get the win.

When everyone played 11, you didn't HAVE to play Texas and Oklahoma in the year every year.
 
cibula11 said:
Honestly, Clone fans should be the happiest to hear this sort of thing. Instead of getting beat, you can schedule a cupcake and get the win.

When everyone played 11, you didn't HAVE to play Texas and Oklahoma in the year every year.
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Yeah, but they're on an island now in the Big Texas north. There is noone within over 200 miles that they will be playing if they lost Iowa on their schedule. It's tough to think that they could get any more irrelevant than they are currently, but losing Iowa on their schedule just may do that. What game is going to pack their HS stadium if Nebby and Iowa are both gone. I think it would hurt them pretty badly.
 
Travisam said:
It's tough to think that they could get any more irrelevant than they are currently, but losing Iowa on their schedule just may do that. What game is going to pack their HS stadium if Nebby and Iowa are both gone. I think it would hurt them pretty badly.
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I've read several Cy Fanatic posts on the potential end of ISU/IA series. It is kind of a mix bag, some argue they need to keep the game alive and some think they would be better off without. Those for keeping it alive cite the idea they would become less relevant without the game. Those that would live with playing an easier opponent cite improved chances for bowl games.

Jon and Steve discussed this in the last 20 minutes of their show this morning. Both agreed that each team needs 7 home games for football. Jon brought up the issue of the $90 ticket rankling people in Iowa's camp. He also mentioned that the old terms for the football series benefited ISU at a time it needed money.

Should Iowa and Nebraska not be on the ISU schedule it will create a void for them. Other than Missouri they would not have a rival of any tradition on their schedule. As one of their fans said, "they are between a rock and a hard place". The need to temper the OOC schedule because of annual games with Texas and Oklahoma versus the loss of statewide exposure.
 
KingClone said:
Why is this any different than it was for years when there were 8 conference games in an 11 game season?

I don't recall any angst then. They just scheduled/played the game.
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because each team had 6 home games a season out of 11. Now each team wants 7 home games out of 12, More money in the pocket.
 
KingClone said:
Why is this any different than it was for years when there were 8 conference games in an 11 game season?

I don't recall any angst then. They just scheduled/played the game.
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Because there were four non-conference games; as opposed to the three that there will be now. The only way that this game can continue to "just be sceduled" is if the schedule goes to 13 games.
 
Same here...good riddance. Plus, what a riot, they would have NO rival whatsoever to play. Their make believe rivals would be gone. They think they have a rivalry with NE, which NE laughs at because a team has to win games to have a rivalry and one win every now and then doesn't qualify, especially when that win was because the other team fumbled the ball 9 times.

And Iowa's true rivalries are Wisconsin, Minnesota, Illinois, Michigan St, Northwestern, and probably now will also include Nebraska big time. So the clowns fall to about 7th on Iowa's list of a rivalry but are number 1 for the clowns. So without Iowa, the clowns have absolutely no rivalry because they have no one in their conference to call a rival...no one.

So we NEED to drop them just so THEY have NO annual rivalry game to play. THEY NEED Iowa...we don't need them whatsoever and in fact are better off not playing them.
 
Even if the schedules do "sync up", I'm in the camp of not wanting this to continue every year. I'd like to see maybe 2 out of every 4 or 6 type of deal where each school could still go out and find other home and home options.

As for rivals, I agree that ISU would be losing out. But, with Nebraska leaving I can see the Missouri, KState, and Kansas games becoming more important on both sides which may eventually turn into a rivalry. Also, I don't expect the Big12 to stay at 10 teams very long so who knows what happens when more teams come along.
 
KingClone said:
Why is this any different than it was for years when there were 8 conference games in an 11 game season?

I don't recall any angst then. They just scheduled/played the game.
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ShadasRevenge said:
Because there were four non-conference games; as opposed to the three that there will be now. The only way that this game can continue to "just be sceduled" is if the schedule goes to 13 games.
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There were only 3 nonconference games with 8 conference games with the 11 game schedules and I think what KingClone is trying to say is that Iowa/ISU did it with only 3 nonconference games before, but he is forgetting the cash cow teams have now with that 7th home game that they don't want to give up that they never had with the 11 game schedule.
 
Clonehomer said:
Even if the schedules do "sync up", I'm in the camp of not wanting this to continue every year. I'd like to see maybe 2 out of every 4 or 6 type of deal where each school could still go out and find other home and home options.

As for rivals, I agree that ISU would be losing out. But, with Nebraska leaving I can see the Missouri, KState, and Kansas games becoming more important on both sides which may eventually turn into a rivalry. Also, I don't expect the Big12 to stay at 10 teams very long so who knows what happens when more teams come along.
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I actually agree with this. With a nine game schedule we will most likely be looking at one FCS cupcake, one MAC/CUSA/Sunbelt cupcake, and then hopefully a team from another BCS conference. Go ahead and play ISU a couple of series in a decade but leave that space open for other BCS teams. I enjoy watching Iowa go up against other BCS conference teams.
 
hawkeyescott said:
There were only 3 nonconference games with 8 conference games with the 11 game schedules and I think what KingClone is trying to say is that Iowa/ISU did it with only 3 nonconference games before, but he is forgetting the cash cow teams have now with that 7th home game that they don't want to give up that they never had with the 11 game schedule.
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Right. I get that. What was different then is that both teams also only had six home games period. Now, Iowa and ISU both have seven home games, and neither team is going to want to give up that extra home game.

Like I've said previously, if the new schedules don't sync up, the series could be in trouble. In any event, the days of Iowa playing two BCS teams in the non-con are probably over.
 
ShadasRevenge said:
Right. I get that. What was different then is that both teams also only had six home games period. Now, Iowa and ISU both have seven home games, and neither team is going to want to give up that extra home game.

Like I've said previously, if the new schedules don't sync up, the series could be in trouble. In any event, the days of Iowa playing two BCS teams in the non-con are probably over.
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This is why the Iowa/ISU series only needs to be played every few years. leave that BCS team slot open for others. I would like some variety.
 
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