I think this is the key to it all. Everyone has their own expectations of this program, if they aren't met then the levels of KF hatred starts to show. The higher the expectations, usually the deeper the hatred.
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I think this is the key to it all. Everyone has their own expectations of this program, if they aren't met then the levels of KF hatred starts to show. The higher the expectations, usually the deeper the hatred.
tubahawk
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Good One tuba
MythOfFerentz
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Oh yes, it's "hatred" when adults expect other adults to actually perform as expected and as compensated to do!! Interesting...
Myth, you have to admit that some of the things people have posted here on this site and said during the call in shows after post games is considered "hatred". In fact, many have used the term "hate" itself to describe how they feel.
HawkeyeWalker
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Iowa has not, nor likely ever will be, a perenial 10 win program. This is the microcosm of all the angst and contention on this board. Everyone has a different perspective and reference of what is "good" "great" "good enough" etc.
Mine is in the Sig....
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MythOfFerentz
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Then why pay a coach like he can deliver that??? Wonderful, wonderful loser attitude you have! People like you are what is holding this program down and enabling its failure! Thanks in advance for a wonderful 2013!!
Wallace: Why? Why is that impossible? You're so concerned with squabbling for the scraps from Longshanks' table that you've missed your god-given right to something better.
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Its like Dave was talking about expectations. Every big time school is trying to do the same thing we are. I dont want Iowa to beone of those schools fire a coach every few years. KF has done a lot at Iowa and deserves time to see if he can get it back on track. Thats just my opinion, it doesnt meen someone else doesnt see it different. I remeber Lute Olson saying the worst thing Tom Davis could have done to himself was almost go to the final four his first year because now the Iowa fans will expect it every year. We live and breath the Hawks That can be tough to live up to
Hawkeye11en1
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How is a fan's opinion of what the program "should be" holding the program down?
MythOfFerentz
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So now it is extreme; as well as hateful, to want to replace an exec who has failed for years in nearly every mesureable performance capacity? How long would this charade have been tolerated at General Mills, IBM, 3M, etc etc etc??
Alvarez thinks it is a good hire.
Ghost thinks it is a bad hire.
Of the two which person would you bet on to be correct?
Of the two who has more knowledge in the area of hiring coaches?
MythOfFerentz
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GhostofBTT
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Because I was going around here spouting off that I know more about coaching than Barry Alvarez? Liek I said before, obviously this is the guy BA wanted the whole time, which is why he spent so many weeks hammering out a contract and using guys like Petersen and Golden for leverage.
You don't get it at all, I didn't say you were wrong in your thinking, just merely that you are extreme. Yes, extreme is getting on a message board everyday and ranting and raving on every single thread about the same thing, over and over and over again which is Ferentz needs fired immediately.
We all get it, you want KF gone. I happen to agree with you, but by starting an argument and talking down to anyone who doesn't agree with you isn't going to help the situation.
In your response to the issue being tolerated at the company/corporate level is a joke. Seriously, say that to all the companies that too bail out money from the government and was used to pay their executives their bonuses.
activebadger
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Really? Alvarez was rebuffed by Al Golden and Chris Petersen? In Alvarez's very first public interview he said that he assumed that Petersen was "locked in at Boise State and doubted that he'd leave but that he'd consider talking to him." Sources also said that Alvarez's contacts down in Miami (they are extensive as Donna Shalala was the Chancellor that brought Alvarez into Madison and she then took the same job in Miami. The most recent miami AD also started under Alvarez) told him that Golden would not be a good fit so Alvarez didn't even interview him.
So where exactly was Alvarez turned down by anyone?!! 99.9% of the information out there was total speculation. At one point in time I heard that Brad Childress was being highly considered. That was NEVER going to happen. This played out exactly how Alvarez said it would. He said he was going to take his time, he did that. He said not to panic and he said that he wouldn't. He said that he doesn't use search firms, that search firms use him. It played out how he said it would.
activebadger
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I guess if it's on the internet it MUST be true right?
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
GhostofBTT
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Wow. Has BA got a spell cast over those cheese sucking artards or what?
homes
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I heard the number 1 qualification for the job was the willingness to follow directives from Alvarez. For the new guy's sake, it would be best if Wisconsin loses the Rose Bowl.
