Yes, this is going to happen. Off nights are going to cost games but I don't see them losing by 30 or so like they did last year against better talent. I think they will keep the bad games closer but still lose. I think that is key to continue success, if you lose, make it close and fight to the very end. I am not talking about moral victories but the players will respond better if they played bad but kept it close than getting blown out.
B1G Predictions
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Yes, this is going to happen. Off nights are going to cost games but I don't see them losing by 30 or so like they did last year against better talent. I think they will keep the bad games closer but still lose. I think that is key to continue success, if you lose, make it close and fight to the very end. I am not talking about moral victories but the players will respond better if they played bad but kept it close than getting blown out.
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Using my modified RPI system which takes into account luck, momentum, nuclear theory (instead of Pythagorean), air temperature outside inverted to inside temp, coaches voices from screaming late in the season (harder now that Bruce Weber is gone), anticipated crack down on chair abuse, sneaky up on teams last season, factored against this season, lack of road games and quality opponents, alignment of the stars, the fact that some teams can actually go 0-17 from 3 point range, and score almost no points in the paint in others, winning a big game by one players once in a blue moon huge scoring effort against good teams, and common sense, here is my prediction: Looks a little like Illanoy last year after Brandon Paul destroyed OSU....look out belowwwwwwwwww.
Indiana- L
@Michigan- L
MSU- L
@NW- L
Wisky- W
@OSU- L
@Purdue- W
PSU- W
@Minn- L
@Wisky- L
NW- W
@PSU- L
Minn- L
@Neb- W
Purdue- W
@Indiana- L
Illinois- L
Nebraska- W
Mikey or Clemmons will make Fr team.
White will be 3rd All B1G
Despite a worse record than in 12, the team will actually be improved over last year due to getting no deductions for sneaky uppy on teams. Several deductions are for a lack of scheduling creativity and guts.
Within a year or two Iowa maybe be a legit 500 B1G contender and possibly go dancing. Long term prognosis is impossible to tell at this point.
If chair throwing deductions no longer occur and they Hawks actually beat a legit top 20 team with an inside game, then the psuedo Kompon RPI maybe be upgraded.
Go Hawks! Please destroy my indifference!
Indiana- L
@Michigan- L
MSU- L
@NW- L
Wisky- W
@OSU- L
@Purdue- W
PSU- W
@Minn- L
@Wisky- L
NW- W
@PSU- L
Minn- L
@Neb- W
Purdue- W
@Indiana- L
Illinois- L
Nebraska- W
Mikey or Clemmons will make Fr team.
White will be 3rd All B1G
Despite a worse record than in 12, the team will actually be improved over last year due to getting no deductions for sneaky uppy on teams. Several deductions are for a lack of scheduling creativity and guts.
Within a year or two Iowa maybe be a legit 500 B1G contender and possibly go dancing. Long term prognosis is impossible to tell at this point.
If chair throwing deductions no longer occur and they Hawks actually beat a legit top 20 team with an inside game, then the psuedo Kompon RPI maybe be upgraded.
Go Hawks! Please destroy my indifference!
sportstalent
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Agreed, there should be a way that Miller has to interview trolls and maybe they would be better...the ones that claim to be Iowa fans crack me up when they try and give honest "assessments" on Iowa.
Some are funny at first, but then it just gets old when they fizzle out and make threads that start off with good information and just ruin them...like this one.
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So Sports, is a troll a troll when they only write Happy thoughts? Your troll comments are really rather ridiculous. So you want.... Hawkeyes always win and if they don't it's the refs fault?
You want...I'm the expert and no one else matters? Nice try. Do you have a cheer leading skirt too?
You want...I'm the expert and no one else matters? Nice try. Do you have a cheer leading skirt too?
I think he is just saying that when they do it that way, they are too obvious. Besides, what does it matter he likes his trolls to be positive or not. To each is own ILHawk!
sportstalent
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Try using rational thought and facts, not just blanket statements that don't hold water.
People can predict things all they want and they can be wrong, no big deal, but real reasoning behind it with a solid argument helps.
I like the statement: "Within a year or two Iowa maybe be a legit 500 B1G contender and possibly go dancing."
Iowa was one win last year away from being a .500 ball club and probably two wins from going to the NCAA. When you take a look at it, the losses to PSU and Nebraska are the two games that cost Iowa from being 1. .500 or better in the BIG and 2. Making the NCAA tournament.
Throw in a third game, NW at home and Iowa is 11-7. These are "ifs" and "could have beens" but they are also closer than thinking Iowa is going to go to Indiana, MSU, OSU and win...three games that they more than likely will not win.
It is one thing to be pessimistic and another just to make statements that throw off entire threads, which is what the point of it was to begin with.
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Being snarky doesn't make you an authority. Some of us have been Hawk fans a long time and remember times just like these. Just because one doesn't agree with your happy thoughts based entirely on happy feelings and vibes doesn't make it right. Last year some of those wins were Gatens playing way above his ability. They did have a few surprise wins over teams not expecting them.
Pessimism and realism are not the same thing. Wishing happy thoughts isn't very insightful on your part. Stop being snarky and being an anti troll. People like you prevent real discussion. You are a Bully.
Pessimism and realism are not the same thing. Wishing happy thoughts isn't very insightful on your part. Stop being snarky and being an anti troll. People like you prevent real discussion. You are a Bully.
scullydirt
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I agree with every outcome except one. Iowa will beat Northwestern on the road to go 9-9 in the conference.
The Hawks will pick up at least 1 win in the BTC tourney, then go dancing with an #11 seed.
Sarcasm much?
sportstalent
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You are funny
If you think that Iowa won games only because Gatens played well last year, then go back and look at tape. Iowa doesn't beat Wisconsin either game without Basabe rebounding the way he did, or Cartwright hitting some shots.
Since you have been a Hawk fan so long, I can't disagree with you? I can't have the belief that Iowa could go to the NCAA tournament, or believe that had they not lost to PSU/NE last season, they would have had a legit shot at being in the NCAA tournament?
The one thing that you can bet on is this: If Iowa has a meltdown in conference, I won't be gloom and doom, I will simply admit that my predictions were wrong...I am wrong a lot and it becomes easier to admit it when you are a lot.
Section136
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u mad
sportstalent
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A lot of people including me have predicted Iowa to lose to Illinois, what is it that makes you think Iowa will lose to Ill?
At first look, my thought was IL 3-pt shooting, but they seem to rely on that a lot...their athleticism what makes that a loss?
Thoughts?
This post is like daddy just hit mommy at the dinner table. Everyone is trying to finish eating but no one is hungry anymore. But you are scared not to finish your place out of fear of getting hit next.
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I would base it on IL's quick guards plus the quickness of the IL's 6-10 big guy. Iowa doesn't have a real answer for that. He's better than given credit for. UNI's guards could go to the hoop pretty easily. They preferred the 3. In spite of all IL's reputation for 3's they prefer to drive when it is there. I don't see Iowa stopping that. Maybe Iowa's most difficult match up of the season. Hope to be wrong.
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Briefly lost my composure due to the intensity of the Game....
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Not doom and gloom now. I think they are vastly improved over last year regardless of whether they win more B1G games than last year. I'm just not ready to by the hype. Too many glaring weaknesses.
Basically to move up, Iowa has to beat Wisky and MSU. Regardless of how one feels about either program, they have proven over and over again their ability to develop teams and gel. Fran hasn't proven that yet at this level.
I do have a bit of a gripe over throwing chairs. Maybe I missed something, but that is something you've never seen those programs do.y
That said, it appears Fran is a good coach and fundamentals are improving. Man defense still stinks and that is a fundamental. Our guards are decent, but still young and they aren't extra special (yet) for the B1G. White is a very solid player. After that I think we have a hard time matching up with many of the teams, especially the better one's. NW will always be a pain. PSU will always be a hard place to play. Iowa's big play has a long way to go and I'm thinking the personnel isn't there yet.
Even with 2 wins over N and PSU, still think it was a long shot for the dance when you mess up that much early. If they beat those teams AND had a quality win in the B1G then, yes they could have made it.
sportstalent
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Hey analysis where have you been?
A lot you have said here is correct, but I think the chair incident was far overblown and honestly the more I have seen it, there was no issue there. It was during a timeout and if it hadn't folded and fallen, nobody would have said a word.
I guess Izzo grabbing officials is okay, just so he can get a few calls. Bo Ryan is one of the worst acting coaches on the sidelines, go to a game and watch him, especially during TV timeouts.
Yes MSU/Wisconsin are proven entities, but Iowa has in the past had success against these programs. I think Iowa really plays inspired ball against MSU given the two games last season and unless MSU puts a lot together in the next couple weeks, Iowa has more than a legit chance to knock them off at home.
I don't expect Iowa to sweep Wisconsin, but winning at home is something that I can almost expect, given the event of the day. Iowa is going to be ready for Wisconsin and eager to prove last season was no fluke.
Iowa has had a long way to go with big play since Fran has gotten there, but the difference is Woodbury is a legit big man, yeah he has things to work on, but I think he will surprise in BIG play. McCabe/Basabe have plenty of experience and Olaseni is beginning to look like a viable player.
In order for Iowa to make the leap they have to win 6-7 games against NE, NW, PSU and Purdue, which now, looks more possible than originally predicted.
This Iowa team is different and I think you will see that, Marble has the potential to lead Iowa in more ways than scoring, something Gatens did, think at Wisconsin.
The youth of the guards is concerning, but here is where the schedule pays off, you make mention that UNI could get to the lane, but settled for 3's. Believe it or not, mid-major guards in a lot of cases are far quicker than major conference guards, but they don't have the mental makeup, hence settling for 3's.
What Iowa does have going for them is that they have shown the ability to improve in conference play, if they can avoid some early losses to NW and Wisconsin, that improvement during conference could just get them in the NCAA.
Section136
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Of the posters that gave game by game predictions, the following have been correct with the first 2 games in conference:
Section136
theboat
BSpringstein
Dunder
MeatMan
Smarthawk
ILHawk
Section136
theboat
BSpringstein
Dunder
MeatMan
Smarthawk
ILHawk
