B1G Delaying Full Contact

We understand there are many questions regarding how this impacts schedules, as well as the feasibility of proceeding forward with the season at all. As we have consistently stated, we will continue to evaluate daily, while relying on our medical experts, to make the best decisions possible for the health, safety and wellness of our student-athletes.
 
Spring football, here we come! Should have just planned for that weeks ago.

one problem with that. Then what happens in the fall of 2021? No football again? You can't sandwich seasons that close, players need recovery time. Do we then wait til fall of 2022? When you start moving seasons around, there are too many other confounding factors.

FYI, there have been a grand total of 225 C-19 deaths between the age of 15-24. (assuming those were all really C-19 deaths). 225 out of approximately 20 Million. That doesn't even move the needle statistically. Those are numbers, not an opinion or viewpoint.
 
I think the B1G is getting ready to announce either start date of 9/26 or delay until spring
 
one problem with that. Then what happens in the fall of 2021? No football again? You can't sandwich seasons that close, players need recovery time. Do we then wait til fall of 2022? When you start moving seasons around, there are too many other confounding factors.

FYI, there have been a grand total of 225 C-19 deaths between the age of 15-24. (assuming those were all really C-19 deaths). 225 out of approximately 20 Million. That doesn't even move the needle statistically. Those are numbers, not an opinion or viewpoint.

Recovery, plus development. How many pounds are players going to lose and not gain at all going from season to spring practice, fall camp and season again?
If you cancel the season for health concerns, you would have to look at the health concerns of having two seasons with no down time, rehab, strength building time also.
If they do play this fall it's going to be a joke anyway. People sitting out, games that will surely be cancelled. No matter who wins what games, it will never be seen as legit.
 
one problem with that. Then what happens in the fall of 2021? No football again? You can't sandwich seasons that close, players need recovery time. Do we then wait til fall of 2022? When you start moving seasons around, there are too many other confounding factors.

FYI, there have been a grand total of 225 C-19 deaths between the age of 15-24. (assuming those were all really C-19 deaths). 225 out of approximately 20 Million. That doesn't even move the needle statistically. Those are numbers, not an opinion or viewpoint.

Did you look up the numbers of 15-24 year olds and I would say 18-24 year olds who are having health complications after being infected? I haven't looked up those numbers but I have read about them, such as, vascular, breathing and lung issues, kidney, etc. Some people do not get sick, some get a little sick, some get sick with long lingering after effects, some die. And we do not know if some who are infected but have no symptoms or hardly get sick might have it hit them later like shingles virus many years after having chicken pox.

I can understand upper classmen and seniors sitting out.

And when you put in parens "assuming those were all really C-19 deaths" then you are stating opinion, viewpoints, and even more about your thinking on this topic.
 
The "no time to recuperate" after a spring season just doesn't fly. A spring season could be completed by mid-May. That's 2.5 months before soft early August workouts begin. 2.5 months! Egads -- these are not 60 year old men...or 40...or even 30. They're 20 year old's whose bodies recover quickly. So they get in 1 month of weight training instead of 2 -- big deal. Coaches don't like the idea of spring ball because it's different and not ideal, and most college football coaches are control freaks, if nothing else. But it could be done, safely. And it will almost certainly be tried, depending how bad C-19 gets this winter.
 
Did you look up the numbers of 15-24 year olds and I would say 18-24 year olds who are having health complications after being infected? I haven't looked up those numbers but I have read about them, such as, vascular, breathing and lung issues, kidney, etc. Some people do not get sick, some get a little sick, some get sick with long lingering after effects, some die. And we do not know if some who are infected but have no symptoms or hardly get sick might have it hit them later like shingles virus many years after having chicken pox.

I can understand upper classmen and seniors sitting out.

And when you put in parens "assuming those were all really C-19 deaths" then you are stating opinion, viewpoints, and even more about your thinking on this topic.

Incorrect. No data set is perfect or beyond question. There are always errors of some kind. Someone could assert the CDC data I used was undercounted or overcounted (both have been claimed). I'm inferring neither...simply that the %s I calculated were based on those numbers and as such, are only as accurate as that source data.
 
Incorrect. No data set is perfect or beyond question. There are always errors of some kind. Someone could assert the CDC data I used was undercounted or overcounted (both have been claimed). I'm inferring neither...simply that the %s I calculated were based on those numbers and as such, are only as accurate as that source data.
Talking last night to someone who works in the funeral industry confirmed my suspicion the COVID-19 numbers are a sham. He sees the death certificates; also has a sister who’s a hospital nurse. Young man killed instantly in a motorcycle crash who tests positive for the virus = COVID death. Middle aged overweight person who suffers a fatal heart attack and tests positive despite no symptoms = COVID death. The counting of CV-19 cases is a joke.

I’m not saying the virus isn’t a serious disease that can kill quickly. It is and we need to deal with it. But there is little reason to believe that state health officials and Johns Hopkins are giving us accurate numbers that reflect the true scope. It’s unfortunate because during pandemic one of the most important issues is for the masses to believe and trust what they’re being told.
 
The "no time to recuperate" after a spring season just doesn't fly. A spring season could be completed by mid-May. That's 2.5 months before soft early August workouts begin. 2.5 months! Egads -- these are not 60 year old men...or 40...or even 30. They're 20 year old's whose bodies recover quickly. So they get in 1 month of weight training instead of 2 -- big deal. Coaches don't like the idea of spring ball because it's different and not ideal, and most college football coaches are control freaks, if nothing else. But it could be done, safely. And it will almost certainly be tried, depending how bad C-19 gets this winter.
Lol. How many "minor" injuries keep players out a month of a season in any normal year?
Lots of players have surgery (minor or not) in the middle of winter and work pretty ha d to get to full speed by fall.
By having 2 seasons that close together you would be making both years a joke.
 
If we can't learn to live with this virus in a sensible way we may not have football until 2025.

But crank the fear machine up to 11. We went shopping in Madison today during tax free Saturday and it was dead as a doornail. Mask compliance was virtually 100%. Didn't matter.

Many people still don't to be inside around any amount of people larger than double digits. But they will still text and drive.
 
Talking last night to someone who works in the funeral industry confirmed my suspicion the COVID-19 numbers are a sham. He sees the death certificates; also has a sister who’s a hospital nurse. Young man killed instantly in a motorcycle crash who tests positive for the virus = COVID death. Middle aged overweight person who suffers a fatal heart attack and tests positive despite no symptoms = COVID death. The counting of CV-19 cases is a joke.

I’m not saying the virus isn’t a serious disease that can kill quickly. It is and we need to deal with it. But there is little reason to believe that state health officials and Johns Hopkins are giving us accurate numbers that reflect the true scope. It’s unfortunate because during pandemic one of the most important issues is for the masses to believe and trust what they’re being told.
And these numbers are what are closing businesses and threatening to keep schools from opening.

They are also affecting people's jobs, careers and livelihoods.

I was told by a local radio deejay that people who were still in testing lines when they closed were being reported as positive cases. These people have to report this "information" to their employers, who are likely to ask them to quarantine for two weeks or make them test negative twice before they are allowed to return to work.

I will report a piece of info because our mainstream media won't. The recovery rate in Wisconsin as of this morning was 84%.

As for the normal flu season get ready for every flu case this winter to be reported as Covid.
 
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And these numbers are what are closing businesses and threatening to keep schools from opening.

They are also affecting people's jobs, careers and livelihoods.

I was told by a local radio deejay that people who were still in testing lines when they closed were being reported as positive cases. These people have to report this "information" to their employers, who are likely to ask them to quarantine for two weeks or make them test negative twice before they are allowed to return to work.

I will report a piece of info because our mainstream media won't. The recovery rate in Wisconsin as of this morning was 84%.

As for the normal flu season get ready for every flu case this winter to be reported as Covid.
Also, have you noticed how some politicians like Gov. Andrew Cuomo and Gov. Gavin Newsom who had been vehement "we can't re-open schools now" are suddenly "Kids need to be back in school!"? Makes you wonder if internal polling is showing that issue breaking hard in favor of one presidential candidate over the other.
 
What are the odds CFB gets killed because university presidents don’t want players organizing and becoming labor activists while blaming Covid for the shutdown?
 
What are the odds CFB gets killed because university presidents don’t want players organizing and becoming labor activists while blaming Covid for the shutdown?


It was a house of cards. Obviously, no one could have predicted the pandemic of 2020, but the business model we have known for years was ready to implode in the near future anyway.
 
Talking last night to someone who works in the funeral industry confirmed my suspicion the COVID-19 numbers are a sham. He sees the death certificates; also has a sister who’s a hospital nurse. Young man killed instantly in a motorcycle crash who tests positive for the virus = COVID death. Middle aged overweight person who suffers a fatal heart attack and tests positive despite no symptoms = COVID death. The counting of CV-19 cases is a joke.

I’m not saying the virus isn’t a serious disease that can kill quickly. It is and we need to deal with it. But there is little reason to believe that state health officials and Johns Hopkins are giving us accurate numbers that reflect the true scope. It’s unfortunate because during pandemic one of the most important issues is for the masses to believe and trust what they’re being told.

And, the earth is flat, JFK is still alive, Obama is a Muslim and not American born, global warming is a hoax. There you go.
 
Talking last night to someone who works in the funeral industry confirmed my suspicion the COVID-19 numbers are a sham. He sees the death certificates; also has a sister who’s a hospital nurse. Young man killed instantly in a motorcycle crash who tests positive for the virus = COVID death. Middle aged overweight person who suffers a fatal heart attack and tests positive despite no symptoms = COVID death. The counting of CV-19 cases is a joke.

I’m not saying the virus isn’t a serious disease that can kill quickly. It is and we need to deal with it. But there is little reason to believe that state health officials and Johns Hopkins are giving us accurate numbers that reflect the true scope. It’s unfortunate because during pandemic one of the most important issues is for the masses to believe and trust what they’re being told.

I've been in medical device or pharma for 25+ years. So I know a few people in health care, some in rather high positions. Most are very level-headed and reasonable, there are a couple who's politics seem to affect their objectivity. Over the last 4 months I've had conversations with RNs, Family practice Drs, internists, ER staff, a cardiologist and an epidemiologist (maybe the smartest one of the bunch) as well as a couple of administrative types. They span a wide range of political flavors.

To say it's been interesting and eye-opening would be an understatement.
 

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