Assistant football coach position open at Iowa

[dave3912]

I belive one was, JMO

Problem is that opinions on a message board mean nothing, no offense. It is better if you know someone within the program who confirmed it to you.

I guess it really doesn't matter what any of us say, we can lie about an "inside source" considering this is completely anonymous and 80% of the people on here are trolls.

 

[LASBUR]

No offense taken. Everything you said is true. My experince with message board is over time you find out what posters to belive. The other board used to have 3-4 who were very good.

Problem is that opinions on a message board mean nothing, no offense. It is better if you know someone within the program who confirmed it to you.

I guess it really doesn't matter what any of us say, we can lie about an "inside source" considering this is completely anonymous and 80% of the people on here are trolls.

 

[dave3912]

No offense taken. Everything you said is true. My experince with message board is over time you find out what posters to belive. The other board used to have 3-4 who were very good.

I think too many people now days are so ****** off at KF with the state of the program is in now that they believe everything he does or doesn't do in their eyes is completely stupid.

They take things that they know nothing about and say KF is missing the point on "everything". Which isn't true, he gets most things, after all he is a division 1 football coach. But I think he real problem is he truly believes in his style and it will work with smart, hard working players who use properly technique and play their position correctly. I don't think it will without top talent.

Given, I think he needs to step up and call time outs if need be or make sure that QB knows in the 2 minute drill what the hell he is supposed to be doing. Play calling seems to always be an issue, it used to be predictable run plays, now it is predictable short passing plays.

 

[LASBUR]

No question Hawk Land is throwing a temper tantrum. Its so bad some of it is not rational KF is a top notch coach in a tough place to win. (IOWA ) On the other hand there is no question KF has big issues with clock managment

 

[IOWuh9]

I understand that this is how its always been inside Fort Kinnick. But I really don't understand why they do it this way. It makes them look worse than if they would just come out and say "Yes, xxxxx has left the program, we wish xxxxx the best in the future. We look forward to finding someone who is willing to do the job and help grow the program." How hard would that be? It's seems like no one really knows what's going on with each other. Is there that much disconnect between staff?

I've heard from two reliable sources that the answer to your bolded question is an emphatic "yes." Take it for what it's worth.

 

[OUTofTOWNHAWK]

do you care to elaborate on those two things? If your first comment is in reference to his in-game coaching that is obvious but that doesn't relate to his decisions regarding his staff.

How long did it take Kirk to announce that Parker would take over at DC?
How much worse could they have handled the problem with all those players getting sick?

Kirk usually takes so long to announce things that multiple rumors and things are blown out to proportions they should be all because kirk doesnt like or doesnt know how to talk to the media.

It comes down to he either is saying screw you Ill do it when I feel like it, or he has the brain of a goldfish.

 

[OUTofTOWNHAWK]

No question Hawk Land is throwing a temper tantrum. Its so bad some of it is not rational KF is a top notch coach in a tough place to win. (IOWA ) On the other hand there is no question KF has big issues with clock managment

LOL Kirk is far from a top notch coach. He did hire Norm Parker so hes got that.

 

[DrKnipe]

Get Kahlil Hill

 

[dave3912]

How long did it take Kirk to announce that Parker would take over at DC?
How much worse could they have handled the problem with all those players getting sick?

Kirk usually takes so long to announce things that multiple rumors and things are blown out to proportions they should be all because kirk doesnt like or doesnt know how to talk to the media.

It comes down to he either is saying screw you Ill do it when I feel like it, or he has the brain of a goldfish.

#1 thing fans who dislike Kirk need to realize, Kirk doesn't care about letting fans know what is going on with the staff or team in a timely manner. It really isn't important for any of us to know, people just feel they deserve to know ASAP or he is moron.

 

[kicker22]

How long did it take Kirk to announce that Parker would take over at DC?
How much worse could they have handled the problem with all those players getting sick?

Kirk usually takes so long to announce things that multiple rumors and things are blown out to proportions they should be all because kirk doesnt like or doesnt know how to talk to the media.

It comes down to he either is saying screw you Ill do it when I feel like it, or he has the brain of a goldfish.

So just to get this straight, it's Kirk's fault if the media or fanbase make things up, simply beccause he refuses to address them. Not saying it's right or wrong, but wasn't that fact something that this board blew up about regarding the Te'o story and how the whole thing could have been handled differently if they'd of done a little research. I think we need to wait for the facts before we start making assumptions or accusing Kirk of doing more damage to the program. I understand what people are saying about the athletic department needing to address the speculation, but at this point, IMO everything Kirk says (or doesn't say) or does is just more fuel to the fire. Unless he comes out and says he's leaving I honestly don't see why it would matter because it would simply be viewed in a negative manner by this fanbase. At this point, who cares what he has to say because people either will support him or throw him to the wolves. The lines been drawn already so who cares everyone's already taken their own stance on this and opinions had been made a long time ago.

 

[ohhawk]

Would agree that it is not important that fans need to know about internal changes such as this in a timely fashion. Only guessing but I would think the coach/coaches being discussed as departing are not leaving on their own. If you are leaving on your own you don't normally spend weeks or months looking for a new employer after departing from your previous one. You usually have done your mining for continued employment before hand and limit any disruption to your income......no? By not announcing personnel changes to the public in the case where one is being let go I think Ferentz is taking the high road to keep it out of the media and public interest for benefit of the departing party and his family. Who wants that type of attention under those circumstances? You want members of your family being faced with it in the public every day?

i do think that Ferentz needs to review his process for informing recruits of a coaching change. Wasn't it just a few weeks ago that several recruits were being told of this change by one of our coaches yet other verbals were on the outside looking in wondering what was going on as they had not heard from anyone on the Hawk staff directly. That needs to be tightened up.

I think Ferentz underestimates the pros and cons of technology and how readily info can travel these days. He stated later this summer in a press conference that he might consider appointing a full time Recruiting Coordinator position within a couple years. I would encourage he do that sooner vs later.

 

[OUTofTOWNHAWK]

If kirk did fire these coaches he needed to do it at the end of the season. He had nothing else to do. Now you have a recruit breaking the news. Yeah that looks real good. I dont think is very smart person but if he did fire these coaches weeks before recruiting wraps up then the program is worse than I thought. Which maybe is good because some of you still think hes a good coach. Maybe Kirk will have to win no games for the next 5 years before some of you see the light.


I understand the fans dont need to know, but who knows what recruit or players are watching this program. The Iowa football program is in the gutter so maybe kirk should stop doing things his way and look around and see how other schools handle these types of changes. Kirks got his money though so there is no need to change.

 

[MeatMan]

fans don't need to know, period. but if we're letting coaches go before signing day, we better have someone ready to go to get out there recruiting, otherwise we're missing out on valuable time and resources. we had coach Woods to interim fill in for Kaz and Woods was out there recruiting. is some GA bumped up to interim in Soup's absence? i personally don't care if we don't find out who will officially fill that spot till later, if there's someone out there recruiting now. that's my personal beef with how this at least "looks" like it's being managed.

and dave, settle down on the troll thing. you're paranoid now.

 

[eveningnewsteam]

They must be required to post the position. The job was never open. Greg Davis wants his wr coach he worked with at Texas. That's been the plan since the day after the Nebraska game and probably before that.

 

[PimScutney]

If they limit the amount of information released, then they limit the amount of times they have to go back and explain rampant speculation to recruits. My guess is the people that really need to know what's going on(recruits)are informed. The rest of us will find out when we can do the least amount of damage.

 

[LASBUR]

OK you got me. I admitt I may not be qualified to judge who is a good D 1 coach. I do know he is very well respected in the coaching community. Collage coaches, A.D.s Pro Coaches & G.M.s So I have to decide who to belive You and others on a message board or them. Whats a guy to do. ???

LOL Kirk is far from a top notch coach. He did hire Norm Parker so hes got that.

 

[thawks1]

We have NO idea if they were fired or decided to move on truthfully. He may have fired them and said I will not hire anyone until late January or early February to give you an opportunity to find a job without people knowing your were fired. I once told an employee it was not working out. I gave him 60 days to find another job. He found another job so know one knew he was about to be fired. Now, he simply did not have the skill set he was hired for - (by corporate). Worked out well for both of us.