Are the Bullies of the Big 10 Back?
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lightning1
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Seen it many times and it's clear that he targets the legs and the chest of opponents. Not his fault if they fall down into the way of his hit. Just stop doubling down on your stupidity. 348 tackles should provide at least 300 instances of high head hunting tackles. You can't even find 10.
HawkGold
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You still missed the point. Times have changed. Rules are different. Your insults are like drool from a bull mastiff
homes
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Except for maybe the MSU kick off return, I don't see this video as evidence of him tackling above the shoulders. He led with his head a lot, but that's not what being a head hunter is.
HawkGold
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It's there... But again, the point is the rules have changed.
lightning1
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He's not gonna relent. Let him troll on. Everyone can clearly see how stupid he is in this argument. The MSU kickoff return is actually just under the helmet, in the players chest cavity. It looks high because the MSU player tried to lower his pads in anticipation of the hit. I have no problem calling a dirty player a dirty player. Bob Sanders wasn't a dirty player/head hunter. He just wasn't.
mopkins
King Kong
Bob was not a dirty player at all, he played well within the rules. That being said, I did laugh at a few of those hits since they look bad today. The most glaring to me was at the 2:22 mark in that video above where he launches himself head first at a receiver and the receiver's head snaps back. That would be called targeting 100% of the time in todays football.
tksirius
HN's Love Doctor
Yep. That video only showed one tackle where he purposely led with his head and it was clear he was aiming for the guy's chest. He would be called for targeting today on that play, but the rest of that video doesn't show any targeting, IMO.
lightning1
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As a former WR and FS, I can tell you that I was much more fearful of a player shooting at my lower legs. Some of those leg tackles that Bob made could have been season ending leg injuries for those players. As a FS, if I wanted to slow a RB down in the hole or coming around the corner, I'd sacrifice my body and shoot hard at his legs a couple of times. That was usually all it took to get a RB to hesitate and not run as hard as he usually would. It was a painful way (for me) to set the tone but sometimes it had to be done, to keep a guy from running all over us.
Northside Hawk
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Overprotecting precious quarterbacks is going to drive NFL ratings down if they don't counterbalance something in favor of the defense.
Defenders deserve to play football, too. Or you're going to have arena football league type scores some day.
EDIT: Maybe the football gods are already exacting their revenge. Field goal misses are in the headlines and at least two kickers have already been released.
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Northside Hawk
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That's how Wisconsin's Lee DeRamus was injured and it wasn't even in a game. A DB going for the ball in a non contact practice ended up cutting DeRamus' legs out from under him. Lee's broken leg cost him his senior season, about five rounds in the NFL draft, and probably hundreds of thousands of dollars (I'm being conservative considering it was 1994)
The 2008-mid 2010 teams were bullies. Clayborn, Binns, Klug and others on the Dee line were beasts as they would just lift and push huge offensive linemen up and out of the way. They swallowed people and Angerer and Eadds and Sash and Greenwood could hit. Still sorry about both those safeties . I remember seeing Sash smell out a play almost running before the snap and like a heat seeking missile just wend his way past blockers and take down the runner in the backfield. He was a runner seeking missile. They had great Off lines and runners who would just punish defenders like Shonn Green did so many times
Northside Hawk
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Yes. And once Kirk decided on Stanzi over Christensen we were in business and ready to roll.
thedukeofearl
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I seem to remember USC taking Bob Sanders out of the game within the first minute of the second half. Got poked in the eye, I believe.....
Out of all the teams, we could have played USC was the one I was not comfortable with.....
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Out of all the teams, we could have played USC was the one I was not comfortable with.....
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I seem to remember USC taking Bob Sanders out of the game within the first minute of the second half. Got poked in the eye, I believe.....
Out of all the teams, we could have played USC was the one I was not comfortable with.....
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Yes the Big Bowl Gods thought it would be best to have Oklahoma play Wash St in the Rose and USC and Iowa in the Orange. Maybe they thought fans of USC and OU would travel better if they were in bowls they had almost never played in. Maybe they thought USC and OU would win this way. But we knew after the fact that a USC OU matchup and a Iowa Wash ST matchup would have been better games overall. The hawks played USC very well in the first half and even squandered away some scoring opportunities in the first half.
