Apathy or rage suppression?

Yeah, go with apathy. I feel your struggles. I ended up raking leaves this afternoon. Turned the game on a couple of times but what I am finding is that I am feeling about football what I slowly felt about Iowa basketball (until lately) ... Gradually just lose interest ...
 
Upset that the program sucks. Not that upset about losing today because bad teams lose and getting upset about the expected is useless.
 
mrolympia said:
apathy all the way. after the ISU game I knew this team sucked. After the CMU game, I just stopped caring. I got more upset over other teams today than I did at the hawks.
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So true...
I can't say it's complete apathy though, because I am worried about the depth of the hole that is being dug.
 
A couple weeks ago, I didn't feel anything. But this week, I took a U-ie right back to being ****** off. That's somewhat relieving for me, because I means I do still care.

I'm worried about the direction the program is heading, more so than I am about the direction of this season.
 
tm3308 said:
A couple weeks ago, I didn't feel anything. But this week, I took a U-ie right back to being ****** off. That's somewhat relieving for me, because I means I do still care.

I'm worried about the direction the program is heading, more so than I am about the direction of this season.
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Tork, you're so on my wavelength tonight...this and what you just said in other thread.

this season played itself out a couple of weeks ago after psu. The losses, while not wanted, are as expected, but now, the mounting losses and lack of surmounting a glimmer of hope are starting to worry me more about the midterm future. We all know we got good young underclassmen, but where are the minds of the yet to be signed and the impressionable younger hs kids? That's what worries/bothers me most, cause this season isnt worth any thing...OP,put me down for apathetic.
 
1hawkeye1 said:
****** after CMU loss, now just shake head every Saturday.
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This for me as well.

Edit: I had a few rage fits during PSU as well. I think winning that MSU game deluded me (and possibly many others) into thinking we were good. Since halftime of PSU, it's just been blank staring at the TV. In hindsight, it's just shocking that we beat NIU and played ISU so tough.
 
gringo24wxc said:
Can't decide ... I've either lowered my expectations to the point that I'm apathetic to an Indiana loss, or I'm suppressing my anger and I'll eventually end up exploding at work and stabbing a co-worker.
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I thought I was apathetic about Iowa Football, but found that I was PO'ed after yesterday's game. So guess I'm still in 'rage supresson' mode. I guess I wasn't so ticked about the result of the game, but I found myself ticked off about the following:

1. Kirk making another chicken$h!t call not to go for it on 4th and 1, down 3 with 4 minutes to go in the game, when our defense isn't really good enough to force a 3 and out and get the ball back. Just wishing we had a coaching staff that would ever just be willing to go for it instead of always making the "safe" and conservative call.

2. Turning on the K-State game and thinking how nice it must be to be a fan who can watch your team play a game that actually means something (playing for a conference title, a national title) while Iowa's game yesterday was playing for the slim hopes of maybe becoming eligible for the whocares.com bowl.
 
Mostly apathetic anymore. I was kind of happy to be pi$$ed off at the end of the game with the punt on 4th and 1., does mean I still care. Everyone I was watching the game was in disbelief on the punt. We were all trying to guess what play we would run and then we lined up to punt. That was dickless.

I imagine I will still watch the game next week,I don't know why though.
 
CFHawk said:
[T]hen we lined up to punt. That was dickless.
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Agree. There's a huge stigma for Kirk surrounding fourth down. I like semi-conservative football, but tell me which path to victory/overtime sounds easier:

1. Give the other team the ball. Hold them to 3 & out when you haven't stopped them in the fourth quarter yet. Use the rest of your timeouts. Get the ball back after a minute has run off the clock and then drive into scoring range.

OR...

2. Pick up half a yard and then drive into scoring range.

Each of these is the best case scenario. As option 1 played out for us, we did not get the ball back after only a minute. Similarly, we easily could have missed on fourth down. Prospectively, though (a type of thinking I honestly think KF struggles with--probably a terrible chess player), which is easier? Not only do I think gaining a half yard is easier than stopping them 3 & out (at least last night it was), but it also leaves you more time.

I mean, there's fourth and half a yard with 3:00 (or whatever) left, and then there's fourth and seven in the first quarter. I'm not sure Kirk can distinguish the two.
 
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Cover3 said:
Agree. There's a huge stigma for Kirk surrounding fourth down. I like semi-conservative football, but tell me which path to victory/overtime sounds easier:

1. Give the other team the ball. Hold them to 3 & out when you haven't stopped them in the fourth quarter yet. Use the rest of your timeouts. Get the ball back after a minute has run off the clock and then drive into scoring range.

OR...

2. Pick up half a yard and then drive into scoring range.

Each of these is the best case scenario. As option 1 played out for us, we did not get the ball back after only a minute. Similarly, we easily could have missed on fourth down. Prospectively, though (a type of thinking I honestly think KF struggles with--probably a terrible chess player), which is easier. Not only do I think gaining a half yard is easier than stopping them 3 & out (at least last night it was), but it also leaves you more time.

I mean, there's fourth and half a yard with 3:00 (or whatever) left, and then there's fourth and seven in the first quarter. I'm not sure Kirk can distinguish the two.
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Agreed completely. We had 4th and less than a yard to go with 5 minutes left and an offense that hasn't done anything all year. In my opinion by punting all we did was trade a fresh set of downs for basically 4 minutes of clock time that we'd never get back.
We go for it and fail, worst case scenario was they get the ball and our defense is on the field anyway. At that point lets be honest the difference between trailing by 3 and trailing by 6 meant little with our offense on the field. We didn't have the confidence in our offense to get a few inches yet played the percentages expecting that same offense to drive the length of the field with under a minute left. With the inability to do anything but run the ball and pick up short yards through the air we at least had a remote chance of picking up the first and keeping a drive alive. By punting we decided we showed we'd already accepted defeat.
 
Honestly though, I realized where I currently stand when after the game I simply said "that's football" and it didn't bother me one bit. I learned life's much easier when losses no longer hurt. Wonder what a win will feel like at this point.
 
1977Hawkeye said:
I thought I was apathetic about Iowa Football, but found that I was PO'ed after yesterday's game. So guess I'm still in 'rage supresson' mode. I guess I wasn't so ticked about the result of the game, but I found myself ticked off about the following:

1. Kirk making another chicken$h!t call not to go for it on 4th and 1, down 3 with 4 minutes to go in the game, when our defense isn't really good enough to force a 3 and out and get the ball back. Just wishing we had a coaching staff that would ever just be willing to go for it instead of always making the "safe" and conservative call.

2. Turning on the K-State game and thinking how nice it must be to be a fan who can watch your team play a game that actually means something (playing for a conference title, a national title) while Iowa's game yesterday was playing for the slim hopes of maybe becoming eligible for the whocares.com bowl.
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The thing about KSU is they are living on borrowed time. Snyder can't live and be effective forever and they have ;proved to have a difficult time com;peting with anyone not named Snyder.

I agree about the call KF made..the only chance we had. But I didn't have any faith we would ;pick u;p the first down either.
 
Cover3 said:
Agree. There's a huge stigma for Kirk surrounding fourth down. I like semi-conservative football, but tell me which path to victory/overtime sounds easier:

1. Give the other team the ball. Hold them to 3 & out when you haven't stopped them in the fourth quarter yet. Use the rest of your timeouts. Get the ball back after a minute has run off the clock and then drive into scoring range.

OR...

2. Pick up half a yard and then drive into scoring range.

Each of these is the best case scenario. As option 1 played out for us, we did not get the ball back after only a minute. Similarly, we easily could have missed on fourth down. Prospectively, though (a type of thinking I honestly think KF struggles with--probably a terrible chess player), which is easier. Not only do I think gaining a half yard is easier than stopping them 3 & out (at least last night it was), but it also leaves you more time.

I mean, there's fourth and half a yard with 3:00 (or whatever) left, and then there's fourth and seven in the first quarter. I'm not sure Kirk can distinguish the two.
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Plus, let's say Iowa punts, and our D actually does get a 3 and out, and we get the ball back with say 2-3 minutes to go. There's still a pretty good chance that our offense would end up in a situation on the ensuing drive where our offense would have to convert a 4th down anyway.. So either way....

If we had an air-tight defense, or there was more time left in the game, I could see punting there. But under the circumstances, go for it.
 
BILLBUCKNER said:
The thing about KSU is they are living on borrowed time. Snyder can't live and be effective forever and they have ;proved to have a difficult time com;peting with anyone not named Snyder.

I agree about the call KF made..the only chance we had. But I didn't have any faith we would ;pick u;p the first down either.
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You're right about K-State.. Once Snyder retires, they will almost certainly fade back into oblivion. But my point was really less about K-State, and more about just thinking it would be nice if our team was relevant these days (the way K-State is this year)..

I'd be happy even if Iowa just was relevant within the conference. Or even our division for that matter.

Even if Iowa doesn't win the division, it would be fun to at least be right there, playing for a shot in the title game at this point in the season, if nothing else. Just SOMETHING significant to play for.
 
1977Hawkeye said:
Plus, let's say Iowa punts, and our D actually does get a 3 and out, and we get the ball back with say 2-3 minutes to go. There's still a pretty good chance that our offense would end up in a situation on the ensuing drive where our offense would have to convert a 4th down anyway.. So either way....

If we had an air-tight defense, or there was more time left in the game, I could see punting there. But under the circumstances, go for it.
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This. If we do punt and hold them to three and out then essentially our starting field position would be the same if not worse, but we lose that much more valuable time. We can't play long and even with a 3 and out it puts our offense in an ugly position if we punt. We've seen our offense try to stretch it out and throw down field and we've failed miserably we needed the extra time on the clock and if we couldn't pick up the 6 inches we deserved to lose.
 
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