Anthony Nelson--NFL

[ArvadaHawk]

what i saw with nelson his FR season was glimpses of his ability, with his size and length, to keep a great deal of separation from the tackle, use his long arms to mitigate the long arms of the tackle, then use his speed/quickness and simply run past a tackle. in my opinion, AN is a potentially high draft pick as a rush DE. at 6'7", both he could be a nightmare for LT's. AN also has really good speed for the position and even better considering his height

AN has progressed each season. In fact, it's actually more AN that keeps AJE as a backup instead of PH, in that conservative kirk likely wants one run stopping DE instead of 2 edge rushers. PH is more than solid as a run stop DE. PH is a potential NFL'er himself if he can put on 20 more lbs and perhaps play DT.

 

[Northside Hawk]

Wasn't Tim Carlsen on that Hempstead team?

Absolutely. But he was a senior. He missed the Championship win the next year, which was my freshman year.

Bob Timmerman, the head coach, was close friends with the late George Chryst, who's son is current head coach of Wisconsin. Bob and George ran the same offense and we're frequent helpers in each other's summer camps.

 

[Northside Hawk]

As Bump said in Lamb and McGrane's book, "It took a few tries..." Bump also hired Lauterbur and Commings.

I've always associated "Lauterbur" with "Lickliter".

For some reason I always get them intertwined in my head.

 

[99topdawg]

It's from "Next Man Up" by John Feinstein. He covered the Ravens that season and got to see first hand one of the most under-reported stories in sports-coaching staff dissension. It played a big factor in dragging the Ravens, who had Super Bowl aspirations, down to 9-7 and a playoff no show. There were a lot of petulant coaches on that staff and a lot of inner turmoil. Billick had his hands full. Yet, you never hear stories like that. It's always the players. While dated, I recommend the book.

Kirk Ferentz gets a couple mentions in that book. He was Baltimore's offensive line coach when they abondoned Cleveland in 1996. Newsome wanted to draft Jonathon Ogden with the fifth overall pick, but had two good offensive tackles. Newsome asked Kirk if Ogden could play guard for a year or two. Ferentz said absolutely. The fans and media wanted Lawrence Phillips. Newsome, partially influenced by Kirk's comment, took Ogden, who is one of the two best players in Ravens history. It may help explain why Ozzie, and Kirk, are still employed over twenty years later.

Another team that had coaching staff dissention was the 2005 Wisconsin Badgers when Barry publicly announced that Bret Bielema would replace him. Well, some assistants knew they wouldn't be coming back and made a big stink about it. Some made their feelings clear to their position players. It got so bad that, at the team's end of the year awards dinner, the wives of the coaches who didn't think they would be retained wouldn't sit at the same table of the wives and coaches who would. Ugly scene all around and perhaps a reason why you should wait until the end of the season to publicly handpick a successor.

That is from Barry's book "Don't Flinch" which is as good a sports biography as there is. Barry tells unbelievable stories, has great insight, and leaves plenty of room for Hawkeye love. And I still haven't forgiven him for knocking off Dubuque Hempstead for the state championship in 1978

I've told this story here before that I was a Browns/Ravens fan living in Nebraska then. I wanted Ogden and the Fusker fans thought I was crazy for not wanting Phillips. Even bet one of them $100 that I was right.

 

[hawkeyebob62]

Absolutely. But he was a senior. He missed the Championship win the next year, which was my freshman year.

Bob Timmerman, the head coach, was close friends with the late George Chryst, who's son is current head coach of Wisconsin. Bob and George ran the same offense and we're frequent helpers in each other's summer camps.

I knew Tim at U of I (fraternity brothers, actually). He was a hell of an athlete and a great guy.

 

[Adam]

I've never heard his pro prospects, but given his size, experience, and athletic ability, I always thought he'd get a shot, but I just saw this in a mock draft for this year and it shocked me seeing his name mentioned like this:

"It's (a guard) obviously not a "WOW" pick, but it's a very solid pick as there are very hungry, talented EDGE players later in this draft who can get after the QB. Perhaps Indy reverses the order, going with a lower-round pick this year, and next year getting a guy like Clelin Ferrell of Clemson, Montez Sweat of Mississippi State, or Anthony Nelson of Iowa."

Anthony Nelson is a sure fire pro. He will probably have 10+ sacks this year. He might go after this season. I also think Hesse, Matt Nelson and AJ all have legitimate pro potential. Matt must stay healthy to keep that dream alive. Hesse has a chance to make a roster on a 3-4 defense playing as a gap plugging LB. And of course AJ should make a great pro. I think AJ and A Nelson could both be first round picks.

The DLine is real at Iowa. Best group we have had since the Clayborn years. It's too bad that the rest of the Defensive units are in reloading. We could be a top 10 defense with this DL. Alas I imagine we are closer to top 30.

 

[Fryowa]

He might go after this season.

We for sure lose Fant, and 50/50 Nelson. I think Nelson is a guy who'd want to stick around. He seems from interviews I've seen to be a pretty grounded individual.

Not that Fant isn't, but he's a total freak athlete and a first rounder next year.

 

[4thngoal]

Just look at Peyton Manning/Ryan Leaf. Most teams had them rated dead even coming out of college. One turned out to be arguably the greatest quarterback to ever play the game. The other turned out to be perhaps the biggest head case to ever play the game. Perhaps thats why the combine has these Wunderlich type tests, especially for quarterbacks. Legend has it that Indianapolis asked Manning and Leaf the same question:. What would you do if taken #1 overall? Manning answered that he would start studying the team playbook immediately. Leaf said he would go party in Las Vegas.

Didn't take a rocket scientist to figure out who the Colts would pick.

I wonder if San Diego asked them the same question. It took them six more years to solidify their QB situation. Wonder if they regret not trading that pick down?

Hayden deserves a lot of credit for keeping that staff together. He had ego, but many head coaches would have let ego get in the way, felt threatened by hiring that much talent underneath them, and gotten rid of anyone deemed a threat to their position. But that's not how Hayden did things.

In all fairness, Payton is a highly intelligent person.
Most people don't know that, they see him as an athlete only.
That's how when Cousins was at MSU I knew right away that he would go pro. You could smell that coming from a mile away.
Nate will go pro as well.
Steven Hawking said it best "intelligence is the ability to adapt". In order to adapt one must be good at studying what they must adapt to.

 

[Northside Hawk]

In all fairness, Payton is a highly intelligent person.
Most people don't know that, they see him as an athlete only.
That's how when Cousins was at MSU I knew right away that he would go pro. You could smell that coming from a mile away.
Nate will go pro as well.
Steven Hawking said it best "intelligence is the ability to adapt". In order to adapt one must be good at studying what they must adapt to.

I'm by no means an intelligence nerd but I miss Hawking already. Anyone who can fight off ALS for fifty years has got to be a badass.

San Diego must have missed the memo. They picked Ryan Leaf second overall. That's like going to New Orleans for Cajun cooking having to settle for spam.

 

[4thngoal]

We for sure lose Fant, and 50/50 Nelson. I think Nelson is a guy who'd want to stick around. He seems from interviews I've seen to be a pretty grounded individual.

Not that Fant isn't, but he's a total freak athlete and a first rounder next year.

Yeah Fant will go to high. You can't blame him.

I'm by no means an intelligence nerd but I miss Hawking already. Anyone who can fight off ALS for fifty years has got to be a badass.

San Diego must have missed the memo. They picked Ryan Leaf second overall. That's like going to New Orleans for Cajun cooking having to settle for spam.

OMG I love shrimp Creole. Lol.
The Chargers have been hit and miss. When they miss, they miss!! But they don't just miss on qb's.
They either are on, or totally off the board. Very erratic.

 

[Northside Hawk]

Yeah Fant will go to high. You can't blame him.


OMG I love shrimp Creole. Lol.
The Chargers have been hit and miss. When they miss, they miss!! But they don't just miss on qb's.
They either are on, or totally off the board. Very erratic.

Getting Desmond King in the fifth round was a hit. On the street they would be arrested for grand larceny or something with that steal.

 

[4thngoal]

Getting Desmond King in the fifth round was a hit. On the street they would be arrested for grand larceny or something with that steal.

No kidding.
But that was a miss by every other pick before them. A broken clock is right twice a day.
They got lucky and yeah pretty much got a steal.