Answer: Alabama, Georgia, Florida St., Louisville, & Iowa

I don't blame Josh Jackson at all. It was time.

But James Daniels clearly should not have committed to the draft. It was a bad decision by both player and head coach.
 




That was brutal for sure. Who knew qb's would take almost half of the top 10? It really comes down to what teams deem as thier highest need. It started to get odd around 20, but around 25 it really kind of dumb. If you go by what the projected need of the team is, some decisions made no sense at all. Seattle takes a rb from SDSU?? The Vikings took a small db out of UCF?
Some of the choices are and always have been a little odd, but it seemed almost as if the last 1/3 of the first was bubble gum bubble gum in a hat.
 


I don't blame Josh Jackson at all. It was time.

But James Daniels clearly should not have committed to the draft. It was a bad decision by both player and head coach.
I think Daniels will be ok with going in the 2nd round, unless he goes in the 5th round. Then he'll probably have some regrets.
 


I think Daniels will be ok with going in the 2nd round, unless he goes in the 5th round. Then he'll probably have some regrets.
I am sure they will both be fine. This does however point out why when people say King should have left, that maybe, maybe not. He seems to be doing pretty good.
You just never know.
In the end there were 8 out of 30 taken that were qb's or rb's, another 9 that were dl or backers. 17 out of 30 in four positions.
 
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I am sure they will both be fine. This does however point out why when people say King should have left, that maybe, maybe not. He seems to be doing pretty good.
You just never know.
In the end there were 8 out of 30 taken that were qb's or rb's, another 9 that were dl or backers. 17 out of 30.
Yeah, IMO if the people are telling you that you're going to go in the top 3 rounds, you enter the draft. It's way too easy to get injured in football. Take the money when it's there. Most NFL careers are short, you'll still be young if you want to come back to college as a grad assistant or something.
 


Yeah, IMO if the people are telling you that you're going to go in the top 3 rounds, you enter the draft. It's way too easy to get injured in football. Take the money when it's there. Most NFL careers are short, you'll still be young if you want to come back to college as a grad assistant or something.
Top 2 I would say yes. That 65-100 (3rd) is tough. Because as everyone knows you could slide a round into the 4th. You could jump a round too, but you had better have a team that really likes you for that to happen.
 


I don't blame Josh Jackson at all. It was time.

But James Daniels clearly should not have committed to the draft. It was a bad decision by both player and head coach.

I'm really surprised Daniels wasn't talking to you about his future. You seem to be in the know much more than the NFL people, his coaches, etc. I'm actually a rocket scientist and I hope to pick your brain about some issues we are having with our CO conversions in our fuel cell projections. Let me know when we can get a few minutes of your time.
 




There's been so many examples of how when your talking about the difference between a 4.4 and 4.5 time being almost irrelevant. This is why every year there's going to be players taken later than guys that are faster that end up having better careers.
Josey Jewell is going to have the same thing happen to him just further down. I will guarantee you he will be a starting NFL linebacker in this league but he's going to drop way further than where he should. Both he and Jackson are better players than they are combine performers. Don't get me wrong there's a minimum amount of athleticism that's required to play football for sure. But they both exceed that by a mile.

Don't disagree it's just that they parse these prospects by threads as far as who to take so a tenth of second makes a difference to the NFL guys.
 


I am sure they will both be fine. This does however point out why when people say King should have left, that maybe, maybe not. He seems to be doing pretty good.
You just never know.
In the end there were 8 out of 30 taken that were qb's or rb's, another 9 that were dl or backers. 17 out of 30.
King is doing good sure. He's not going to be collecting food stamps anytime soon. But him not going early cost him millions of dollars. Not hundreds of dollars or thousands but millions plural... He's going to have to stay healthy and play well at the end of his rookie deal to really cash in. I hope he does.
 




The good news (let's focus on the positive) the next 4 out of 5 are projected as needing CB's. All 5 are projected as needing OT's.
 




King is doing good sure. He's not going to be collecting food stamps anytime soon. But him not going early cost him millions of dollars. Not hundreds of dollars or thousands but millions plural... He's going to have to stay healthy and play well at the end of his rookie deal to really cash in. I hope he does.
But we don't know how much it really cost him. That was my point. He slide way to far Imho, because nobody would throw it his direction. that's because he is good, really good. From there it's about intangibles.
 
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But we don't know how much it really cost him. That was my point. He slide way to far Imho, because nobody would throw it his direction. But you would think they would see that and know, that's because he is good, really good. From there it's about intangibles.
To evaluate a person is extremely difficult. Extremely. To evaluate many is exponentially more so.
I mentioned something about three consecutive thousand yard seasons in another thread.
Did you know, that during those three years, not one ol was drafted??
The details and depth that go into an evaluation are not for the faint of heart and take 80 plus hr weeks.
Something you really have to love doing.
Me I love football, if that was all that was on TV, I would be perfectly fine with that.
 




King is doing good sure. He's not going to be collecting food stamps anytime soon. But him not going early cost him millions of dollars. Not hundreds of dollars or thousands but millions plural... He's going to have to stay healthy and play well at the end of his rookie deal to really cash in. I hope he does.
Perhaps he will have a Colin Cole type career (recent WATN) and outlast a bunch of those DB's who were drafted ahead of him, and end up making more money anyway. Perhaps Josh and James, wherever they get drafted, will do the same.

It's always a crapshoot in numbers when 50 players are told they are first round material and only 32 first round picks are available. It's worse in the NBA, where European players and high school players are thrown into the mix and many who declared early and hire agants don't get drafted at all. Many thought Matt Roth was a can't miss first round. He dropped to mid second and only them was picked because Saban had just taken the Miami Dolphins job and remembered Roth from the legendary Capitol One bowl game.
 


there needs to be an out for players that don't like their draft position.

What might this look like? For instance, could someone just declare after Pick #20 that he is going back to college? That would throw a wrench into the whole process if a team was ready to pick him next.

Maybe he would have to declare a "pick number" prior to the start of the draft so the league knew he would bow out at a certain point if not picked. Maybe even let the teams know it. Kind of like a "reserve price" at a car auction. Could add an interesting wrinkle to the draft.

And can you imagine what that would feel like to the player. Not sure I could sit in that room and walk away knowing that I could be the next pick.
 


What might this look like? For instance, could someone just declare after Pick #20 that he is going back to college? That would throw a wrench into the whole process if a team was ready to pick him next.

Maybe he would have to declare a "pick number" prior to the start of the draft so the league knew he would bow out at a certain point if not picked. Maybe even let the teams know it. Kind of like a "reserve price" at a car auction. Could add an interesting wrinkle to the draft.

And can you imagine what that would feel like to the player. Not sure I could sit in that room and walk away knowing that I could be the next pick.

That's not how it works.
Never has and never will.
If you declare anything, or for anything, you better be ready to stand behind it, win or lose. That's the gamble.
You don't get to tell your boss, hey I'm going to go do this and expect that if it doesn't work out your job will still be open.
You don't tell your spouse, I'm going to go try this, but if it doesn't work out, can you hold my spot.
Just saying.
 
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