Anonymous quotes from Big Ten coaches

[Northside Hawk]

We live in a recruiting hotbed, thats for sure. When Michigan comes down and tries to grab one of the few 4* players in the state, we obviously have no guarantee of keeping our own, handful of 4 STAR recruits. So yea, id say being IOWA we should be relatively pleased that we get to root for winning football and cheering the Hawks on a fall Saturday is a BLAST!!! Envious, dang right they all should be. But what Ferentz has he's earned through a clean program, leadership qualities, a good honest representation of the university and state of Iowa. If you are the U of Iowa, youre going to fire that guy for.......what? Name a coach in the entire history that has accomplished more? Fry, Jones, Evasheski. None, save a weird vote for one 8-1-1 Iowa team has won a national title. ZERO official titles.

I like coach Ferentz. That's no shock to anyone who stalks my posts on here. I like a consistent winning program. I like that we are viewed as hard working, tough, family/faith/football ordered. There's no shame in being respected. We will never be feared. I like how Iowa is regarded nationally considering outside of Des Moines, Iowa City and a handful of other cities most people in the US pay very little attention to the state. We have no entitlement to expect national championships. Fry, Evasheski, Jones and yes Ferentz have all taken us within shouting distance with a couple breaks here and there. Id love to avg 10 wins a year. But even Wisconsin has recruiting advantages over Iowa. I havent suffered all too much the past 20 years rooting for the Hawks. Most of you shouldn't have either. If you say you have, then, its working on say...130 years of suffering.

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I think "they" is a lot more than people on this board believe.

Some fair points here. But when given the chance to use the word "love" you yourself used words such as "like" and "respect".

He should be liked and respected. He has brought more joy than sadness into my living room the past twenty years. But I'm not so sure about loved, except through the eyes of a delusional athletic director who couldn't keep him on the four year leash he probably deserved. And the coach(es) who made the comments in the article are probably echoing the sentiments of others in the conference and the Midwest.

He will go down as Iowa's all time winningest coach and probably a Hall of Fame inductee. He will probably go out on his own terms. At the end of the day not a bad run. But for some reason he's never more than one bad loss from someone wanting his ass on the unemployment line.

 

[Fryowa]

Sorry, no panfish in this collection.

My family likes smallmouth bass, sheephead, and perch, all of which I caught that day.

I switched avatars about the time several of us were swapping fishing stories. I'll probably switch it again pretty soon.

I was just funnin' ya man. Where I'm at we call sheepshead freshwater drum. I don't care for it but you gotta eat what you like. I catch enough gills and crappies that I don't keep anything else other than the odd walleye or perch if we stumble on some during ice season.

 

[okeefe4prez]

What recruiting advantages does Wisconsin have?

Im assuming you are implying KFs cleaner program?

1) Madison is better than IC and the campus is nicer.

2) Wisconsin has almost double the population of Iowa and there is only one P5 school in the state. To the extent they are competing with adjoining states for in-state talent, they are lucky because Minnesota sucks, Illinois sucks and Iowa is the only team with a chance at stealing kids, but when they send their best kids to Iowa on official visits, fights break out in the locker room.

3) Recent history favors Wisconsin. If you're a good running back from out east and you have Iowa and Wisconsin offers, you'd have to be a fool to go to Iowa. Have you seen the difference in o-line play between those programs? Iowa's nice run of 3 straight top 10 finishes happened when the current recruits were in diapers, so they don't give a crap about it. It's a "what have you done for me lately?" business.

 

[HawkGold]

1) Madison is better than IC and the campus is nicer.

2) Wisconsin has almost double the population of Iowa and there is only one P5 school in the state. To the extent they are competing with adjoining states for in-state talent, they are lucky because Minnesota sucks, Illinois sucks and Iowa is the only team with a chance at stealing kids, but when they send their best kids to Iowa on official visits, fights break out in the locker room.

3) Recent history favors Wisconsin. If you're a good running back from out east and you have Iowa and Wisconsin offers, you'd have to be a fool to go to Iowa. Have you seen the difference in o-line play between those programs? Iowa's nice run of 3 straight top 10 finishes happened when the current recruits were in diapers, so they don't give a crap about it. It's a "what have you done for me lately?" business.

Except for #3 and the first part of 2 don't agree. First, Iowa doesn't really miss much on instate talent that goes to ISU and be impact players. Maybe that will change. They recruit a lot of out of state talent. Heck, Iowa's QB is from???Where???

Wisky doesn't out recruit Iowa by much. The real issue is maybe they are better at developing talent and have a bit more savvy on game day management. If Iowa can keep more steady, any recruiting deficits are likely erased.

If BF works out and there is some diminishing of Ferentzing, I fully expect Iowa to be toe to toe with Wisky on game day and recruiting.

 

[proudhawkfan21]

What recruiting advantages does Wisconsin have?

Im assuming you are implying KFs cleaner program?

What professional team do we have? What Metropolitan center does Iowa have? How close is Milwaukee to Chicago? They have clear recruiting advantages. Wisconsin 5.8 MM people, Iowa 3.1MM. Almost 2x the population but that is no advantage....or.....is....it? Really? What recruiting advantages do they have? Oh and that other state school in Wisconsin......is........???

 

[proudhawkfan21]

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Some fair points here. But when given the chance to use the word "love" you yourself used words such as "like" and "respect".

He should be liked and respected. He has brought more joy than sadness into my living room the past twenty years. But I'm not so sure about loved, except through the eyes of a delusional athletic director who couldn't keep him on the four year leash he probably deserved. And the coach(es) who made the comments in the article are probably echoing the sentiments of others in the conference and the Midwest.

He will go down as Iowa's all time winningest coach and probably a Hall of Fame inductee. He will probably go out on his own terms. At the end of the day not a bad run. But for some reason he's never more than one bad loss from someone wanting his ass on the unemployment line.

Yep, i get that. The personality profile is appreciate and respect...or like and admire...more than it is love. I guess i was thinking more along the lines of appreciate or approve of.....not amorous or biblical love

 

[Unknownbadger]

What professional team do we have? What Metropolitan center does Iowa have? How close is Milwaukee to Chicago? They have clear recruiting advantages. Wisconsin 5.8 MM people, Iowa 3.1MM. Almost 2x the population but that is no advantage....or.....is....it? Really? What recruiting advantages do they have? Oh and that other state school in Wisconsin......is........???

After spending a dozen years in Iowa a while back, I can say that in many ways Iowa HS's in some areas support their programs much better than those in Wisconsin. That said, there is definitely a pure talent advantage when a state has almost twice the population. It might be a little rawer but both programs are developmental. You have to find that "raw" talent and get them into your program. Over the years, Wisconsin has done that as affirmed by the many all-B1G walk-ons Wisconsin has produced. Lately, we see a number of programs recruiting the State hard looking for those raw gems. Iowa for one, but also Michigan, MSU, NW, the Goofs, and Nebraska.

We can no longer slow play them. Iowa was quick to pick up on that.

BTW, we have a terrible record recruiting anybody out of Chicago, or Milwaukee for that matter, in ANY sport. Madison isn't much better but the suburbs have produced some.

 

[HawkGold]

What professional team do we have? What Metropolitan center does Iowa have? How close is Milwaukee to Chicago? They have clear recruiting advantages. Wisconsin 5.8 MM people, Iowa 3.1MM. Almost 2x the population but that is no advantage....or.....is....it? Really? What recruiting advantages do they have? Oh and that other state school in Wisconsin......is........???

UMN Duluth.

 

[proudhawkfan21]

Oh yea the fighting whatchamacallits

 

[Northside Hawk]

Yep, i get that. The personality profile is appreciate and respect...or like and admire...more than it is love. I guess i was thinking more along the lines of appreciate or approve of.....not amorous or biblical love

Yes, respect and appreciation are more enough for the man. He has earned that.

My main point was that the one person who loves him, or at least the job he does, is the one that counts. He wields the gavel. Well, in the this case he wields the checkbook, anyway.

The interesting thing about the original Athlon article was how candid coaches can be about their competition when afforded anonymity. The was little or no pregame "coach-speak" present here. It was raw and honest. Accusing a team of quitting in games, for example, would be the last thing you would want getting on their bulletin board the week of a game.

 

[Northside Hawk]

UMN Duluth.

Careful there now, they are the defending NCAA hockey champions.

 

[Northside Hawk]

What I want to know is why the heck you kept that drum in your avatar. Those things are horrible.

Ask and you shall receive, posters.

Ask and you shall receive.

 

[Northside Hawk]

I was just funnin' ya man. Where I'm at we call sheepshead freshwater drum. I don't care for it but you gotta eat what you like. I catch enough gills and crappies that I don't keep anything else other than the odd walleye or perch if we stumble on some during ice season.

A lot of people around here call them stripers. I have heard the name "drum" used, too. Their mouths look a little like carp which makes them god-awful ugly. The one directly underneath the bass was a sheephead, too. I mean a striper. I mean a freshwater drum!

 

[IowaTeddy]

Except for #3 and the first part of 2 don't agree. First, Iowa doesn't really miss much on instate talent that goes to ISU and be impact players. Maybe that will change. They recruit a lot of out of state talent. Heck, Iowa's QB is from???Where???

Wisky doesn't out recruit Iowa by much. The real issue is maybe they are better at developing talent and have a bit more savvy on game day management. If Iowa can keep more steady, any recruiting deficits are likely erased.

If BF works out and there is some diminishing of Ferentzing, I fully expect Iowa to be toe to toe with Wisky on game day and recruiting.

The difference is on offense. Iowa struggles to produce a consistently good offense. When it's good, it's a style of offense that we all love and football becomes incredibly fun. When it's bad, it's really bad. Wisconsin is consistently able to run the ball and control games. I'm not saying they've had consistently good quarterback play or passing game, but their running offense is iconic and better than Iowa's in the last 5 years. Both teams have had good/consistent defenses.

 

[Northside Hawk]

Except for #3 and the first part of 2 don't agree. First, Iowa doesn't really miss much on instate talent that goes to ISU and be impact players. Maybe that will change. They recruit a lot of out of state talent. Heck, Iowa's QB is from???Where???

Wisky doesn't out recruit Iowa by much. The real issue is maybe they are better at developing talent and have a bit more savvy on game day management. If Iowa can keep more steady, any recruiting deficits are likely erased.

If BF works out and there is some diminishing of Ferentzing, I fully expect Iowa to be toe to toe with Wisky on game day and recruiting.

Wisky has always had the road grader offensive linemen, even in the pre Alvarez days (Paul Gruber) and now they seem to have the market cornered on them. They've had an assembly line of running backs go through there seemingly since Terell Fletcher and Brent Moss. But true playmakers and QB and WR usually reared their ugly heads when they had to play catch up in the second halves of games. They were always making do with guys like Scott Tolzien or Joel Stave under center and players like Jared Abbedarius and Alex Erickson at wideout. Now they seem to have the talent gap shored up there as well. Hornibrook really grew up in the Orange Bowl and they have wideouts like Kendrick Pryor and Quenton Cephus who are better than anything we have had since McNutt and DJK, if not CJ Jones, Maurice Brown and Ed Hinkel. Rising up to that level in skill position talent to go to to toe with them still leaves us with our work cut out for us.