AJ Burnett to the Cubs for Soriano?

CRHawk2002 said:
Soriano does throw a lot of people out from LF. However he is awful defensively and a total liability in the field. Every flyball hit to him is a circus. I find it unlikely the Cubs would do this deal, I understand I could be wrong. But eating a big chunk of Sori's contract plus picking up a bad contract with AJ just doesnt seem in line with everything Theo and Hoyer have been doing. A 35 year old pitcher that is due 35 million over the next two years that has an ERA over 5.00 and a WHIP over 1.40 over the last two years does not appear to be a good investment. History would indicate that AJ's best years are behind him and if we are going to spend 16 mill a year on a pitcher I personally would prefer we go elsewhere.

If there was a way they could make the deal so it makes sense financially for the Cubs I could see a reason to do it. But I find that unlikely.
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I don't think the Cubs would have to eat anything from Soriano's deal to make this happen. The Yankees are willing to pay 10+ mil for AJ to go play somewhere else for two years. Thats less than the 18 million it would cost them for the 3rd year of Soriano's deal.

Soriano could really help the yankees provided all he does is hit like he has been the last couple of years.
 
bcl20 said:
You guys must be excited to watch Reed Johnson start a lot of games.
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And why wouldn't we be? He's a balls-to-the-wall type of player and sacrifices his body at any cost. You can't say the same for Soriano....

And Johnson batted over .300 last year. What's the problem?
 
I must be one of the few Cub fans that actually like Soriano. Yes, every fly ball is an adventure for him, but he has a strong, accurate arm. And there are those 2-3 times every year that he just goes on an absolute tear at the plate. Plus, he is a decent guy to the fans and in the clubhouse. It would probably be a good thing for him to be traded to the American League, and if the right deal could be made, so be it. But I can't get excited about having Burnett is a Cubs uni.
 
DuffMan said:
I don't know that the cubs would even have to send the Yankees cash. They might do it outright. Soriano is worth more to the Yanks, he'd be a solid run producer in that line up. The Yankees are probably willing to eat 10+ mill a year for two years to send him to the Pirates. That's more than they would pay for the last year of Soriano's deal (18 million).


There is absolutely no way in H the Yankees would do a Burnett for Sori swap outright. Sori is due 54 million through 2014 and Burnett is due 34 million through next year. So not only are they losing the 20 million throughout the duration of the contracts, but they would be losing 18 million off the books in 2014 to use on FA's. Sori cannot field, he strikes out too much, and he no longer can steal bases. He is not worth half of what he is due over the next three years. If the Cubs got offered this deal they should take it immediately and than go straight to the casino. They can find a better DH that is a FA on waivers for a one year deal that will come off the books next year. AND move Burnett for prospects.
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GoHawks24 said:
And why wouldn't we be? He's a balls-to-the-wall type of player and sacrifices his body at any cost. You can't say the same for Soriano....

And Johnson batted over .300 last year. What's the problem?
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Soriano is better at baseball than he is. Johnson was good last year but every indication is that it was an anomaly. I don't care about perceived lack of effort. I care about being good at baseball.
 
bcl20 said:
Soriano is better at baseball than he is. Johnson was good last year but every indication is that it was an anomaly. I don't care about perceived lack of effort. I care about being good at baseball.
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You make it sound like Reed Johnson is just some scrub when that's not the case at all. And last season wasn't the first time he's batted over .300. And he is sure as hell a lot better of a deal than Soriano.
 
Again you are forgetting the fact hes saving them from paying 10+ mil (probably closer to 13) of AJs deal. The other thing is pitchers and catches report to camp on Wed and the Yankees don't have a DH as of right now. But you are right, the Yankee aren't known for sacrificing a little bit of tomorrow to pick up an aging veteran who can help them today... wait... what?
 
GoHawks24 said:
You make it sound like Reed Johnson is just some scrub when that's not the case at all. And last season wasn't the first time he's batted over .300. And he is sure as hell a lot better of a deal than Soriano.
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He's an ok bench player. He's ops'd over .800 twice in his career. He isn't someone you want starting in left field at all. Soriano isn't either but he's better than Johnson.

Johnson's also made a killing off of being a platoon player. He mashes lefties and is downright atrocious vs righties (aside from an anomaly season last year where he had about 100 PA's against right handers.) Now, once again, Soriano is pretty much a platoon player this year but his did ok, not good against righties last year.
 
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bcl20 said:
He's an ok bench player. He's ops'd over .800 twice in his career. He isn't someone you want starting in left field at all. Soriano isn't either but he's better than Johnson.
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We're just gonna have to agree to disagree. I wouldn't mind Reed being an almost every day starter. And it's not like the Cubs will be competing for anything come the off-season. I think shipping him off wouldn't be a bad move at all, especially regarding the financial aspect.
 
GoHawks24 said:
We're just gonna have to agree to disagree. I wouldn't mind Reed being an almost every day starter. And it's not like the Cubs will be competing for anything come the off-season. I think shipping him off wouldn't be a bad move at all, especially regarding the financial aspect.
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I don't disagree with that. I just wouldn't want to do it for Burnett. We have some pitchers that we want to develop and I don't want to hamper them with a average at best, aging starter.
 
I like this deal for the simple purposes of not having to worry about Soriano in 3 years. I like that Burnett only has 2 years left as opposed to Soriano's 3. As far as players go, I don't like much about Burnett. But if the Cubs can pull a straight up sway of contracts, I like the idea.
 
As a Yankee fan, I would rather have Burnett than Soriano. Soriano swings at every ball in the dirt and probably strikes out more than he makes contact. He was in New York before and we got Arod for him. I feel like if Soriano came back and was teammates with Arod it might cause some team chemistry issues. Might not be a good thing.
 
bcl20 said:
I don't disagree with that. I just wouldn't want to do it for Burnett. We have some pitchers that we want to develop and I don't want to hamper them with a average at best, aging starter.
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And I don't disagree with that. Burnett has definitely not lived up to expectations, but maybe he'll have an anomaly type of season. I can hope, right? :)
 
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