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[ssckelley]

What does a raise last year have to do with this year? Don't you get annual performance raises where you work? If not, you should maybe find a different line of work.

1. He received a raise LAST YEAR for his performance LAST YEAR. He should receive a raise THIS YEAR for his performance THIS YEAR.
2. You don't reward someone based on whether they are going to leave or not, you reward them based on merit.
3. Yeah, it's called bonuses. Plenty of people get bonuses all the time in addition to merit based pay increases.

Bottom line is that when you couple the increased success of the team this year with the large increase in attendance, which equal increased revenue to the athletic department, he deserves a raise to share in the add'l profit he just made his "company".

He will be getting a raise, his contract calls for him to get 200k more next season he would have gotten another 200k had he gotten them to the tournament. So how much more does he need for his job? If the intent was to rewrite his contract every year then why go through the process of giving him incentives? He got an extra 10k for getting then to the NIT and could get another 50k if they win it. I think his contract is just fine and in line where it needs to be.

 

[SpiderRico]

He will be getting a raise, his contract calls for him to get 200k more next season he would have gotten another 200k had he gotten them to the tournament. So how much more does he need for his job? If the intent was to rewrite his contract every year then why go through the process of giving him incentives? He got an extra 10k for getting then to the NIT and could get another 50k if they win it. I think his contract is just fine and in line where it needs to be.

Well considering we're the 6th place team in the conference and should, barring a complete collapse, be even higher next year, I'd say the answer to your question of "how much more does he need for his job" would be whatever amount it takes to at least pay him compensation that would place him around 6th in the conference.

 

[ibahawkeye]

Well considering we're the 6th place team in the conference and should, barring a complete collapse, be even higher next year, I'd say the answer to your question of "how much more does he need for his job" would be whatever amount it takes to at least pay him compensation that would place him around 6th in the conference.

So in this scenario... he should not be under contract and he should just be paid annually based on how he finishes in the conference?
As a hawk fan, I sure hope he wouldn't but if he finishes 10th, can we deduct his pay?

It's a contract!!! I don't think you understand how contracts work. You sign a contractual agreement to provide a service for a specified time period for a specified $$ amount.

 

[IowaFan81]

I'd have no problem giving him a slight bump in pay.....enough to get him to middle of the pack in the B1G. But no extension yet. If he gets us to the tourney next year, then go ahead and extend him out to 2024 (essentially a 5 year extension). But to extend when there hasn't been an NCAA tourney invite yet is ridiculous in my mind.

Not saying it would happen, but haven't we already seen this for a coach at Iowa. And not too many are happy about it. I understand you don't want a coach going into a lame duck year, but that's a ways a away.

Here's a good breakdown of his contract. He could of earned a big raise this year and still could in coming years without reworking the contract. He's done a great job, but it's only year 3 and the contract has already been redone once. Let's wait to see what happens the next 2 years before doing something.

http://www.blackheartgoldpants.com/2012/7/10/3149702/fran-mccaffery-gets-raise-contract-extension

 

[JHHawk]

Next year,if we make the tourny, he gets an extension and a good bump in salary. I really doubt he would leave this year with the team on the cusp of success that could bump him into the stratosphere,and maybe put him in play for one of the crown jewel jobs, or ND.

 

[IowaFan81]

* Tom Izzo, Michigan State: $3.49 million
* Thad Matta, Ohio State: $2.487 million
* Tom Crean, Indiana: $2.32 million
* Matt Painter, Purdue: $2.3 million
* Bo Ryan, Wisconsin: $2.11 million
* John Beilein, Michigan: $1.8 million
* Tubby Smith, Minnesota: $1.75 million
* Tim Miles, Nebraska: $1.4 million
* Fran McCaffery, Iowa: $1.15 million
* Bill Carmody, Northwestern: $1.1 million (contract unavailable)
* Patrick Chambers, Penn State: Unavailable (According to the USA Today, Chambers’ predecessor, Ed DeChellis, made $709,372 in 2011)

On this list who should Fran be making more than? I believe he's ahead of Tim Miles and John Groce now after last year's raise.

 

[SpiderRico]

So in this scenario... he should not be under contract and he should just be paid annually based on how he finishes in the conference?
As a hawk fan, I sure hope he wouldn't but if he finishes 10th, can we deduct his pay?

It's a contract!!! I don't think you understand how contracts work. You sign a contractual agreement to provide a service for a specified time period for a specified $$ amount.

Until both parties mutually agree to revise it. A contract is simply an agreement that two parties agree to. There is ALWAYS language in contracts that say it can be revised or terminated by mutual agreement of the parties.

 

[ssckelley]

Well considering we're the 6th place team in the conference and should, barring a complete collapse, be even higher next year, I'd say the answer to your question of "how much more does he need for his job" would be whatever amount it takes to at least pay him compensation that would place him around 6th in the conference.

The thing is Fran is already being paid in the middle of the pack once his raise kicks in. If they felt his contract should be structured according to the conference standing then they should have written it up that way.

We are making a bigger issue of this than necessary. Fran is not complaining about his salary, why should we? He is getting raises, he has incentives, there is no need to rewrite a deal just because Jim Beilein is making 300K more than Fran is.

 

[hawkeyebob62]

The question is whether UCLA or Minnesota would consider Fran a coach who, quite frankly, has only gotten Iowa to the NIT. I think UCLA wants a big name and Minnesota seems gunning for Shaka Smart. Paying a 1.75 million buyout for a coach that has not even gotten Iowa to the NCAA tournament seems to be a reach. Even if Fran is using Iowa as a stepping stone now is not the time to make that move with the young team he has right now.

I will be absolutely SHOCKED if Minny lands Shaka Smart.

 

[Tmoney12]

I will be absolutely SHOCKED if Minny lands Shaka Smart.

It would Shaka the college basketball world

 

[Tschroeder13]

I would have no problem with extending Fran and increasing his salary. The guy knows what he is doing, for the most part, and is exactly the type of coach that Iowa needs.

We have seen NO transfers, NO disciplinary issues, NO grade issues, and an increase in # of wins each year. We have landed 4* players and players seem to like the guy. What else could we ask for? Lock him up, make him a Hawkeye for the next 10 years.

Does Anthony Hubbard not count?

 

[ICHAWK]

Well considering we're the 6th place team in the conference and should, barring a complete collapse, be even higher next year, I'd say the answer to your question of "how much more does he need for his job" would be whatever amount it takes to at least pay him compensation that would place him around 6th in the conference.

He has a contract and is making good money. I see no reason to pay him more at this time. How much of a raise so you want to give him?

It's not like he is some up and coming young coach who you fear will leave either. I understand VCU or Butler trying to lock up Smart and Stevens long term to good money. They would instantly be hired by any program in college bball looking for a coach.

I just don't understand why people are so into thinking Iowa needs to pay Fran more.