Aaron White Needs More Touches

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DunderMifflinHk

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Plenty of times in the MSU game White had a much shorter player on him and we need to get him the ball on the block. When he went off during the Michigan game I thought we were going to start playing through him but we went away from him in the MSU game. I think we could have broken that scoring drought if we would of got the ball to him down low.
 
What so he can get more assists? :)

Not sure what is going on but clearly he isn't comfortable with shooting the ball and IMO these last 3 games White has been a disappointment. He is just not as aggressive as he needs to be, that must change!
 
I agree we need to go through White more than we do. I wish he wasn't so reluctant to shoot he three
 
Whatever happened to the AW we all saw vs isu?? He totally dominated that game.

He needs to be more involved offensively from the git-go. Can't afford for him to wait until the second half.
 
LASBUR said:
I agree we need to go through White more than we do. I wish he wasn't so reluctant to shoot he three
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The fact that he's a career 25% three-point shooter is a pretty good reason not to shoot them. I wish he could shoot them more effectively, but he knows he's more likely to hurt the team by taking threes than he is to help it.
 
I get it. But I think its in his head. He can make the shoot if he just had little confidence. When he just pops it he does pretty good. But when has time to think about it, not so much
tm3308 said:
The fact that he's a career 25% three-point shooter is a pretty good reason not to shoot them. I wish he could shoot them more effectively, but he knows he's more likely to hurt the team by taking threes than he is to help it.
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Aaron White gets plenty of touches. He needs to do something with the touches he gets -- especially on wing. Hit some 15-17 ft. jump shots to make room for his drives.
 
I think you put aw at the 4 and use him on pick and rolls with gesell and marble. This caters to his abilities in the half court as he can't catch and shoot. Get him attacking the rim for a pass or a rebound.
 
LASBUR said:
I get it. But I think its in his head. He can make the shoot if he just had little confidence. When he just pops it he does pretty good. But when has time to think about it, not so much
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His percentage has stayed consistent through his career so I will disagree about the confidence thing. If it was confidence he would have shot better earlier in the yr when he was flying high. But he shot the same 3 pt percentage as he has all career.
 
DDThompson said:
Aaron White gets plenty of touches. He needs to do something with the touches he gets -- especially on wing. Hit some 15-17 ft. jump shots to make room for his drives.
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Agree. He plays on the outside most of the time and cant do anything there.

He cant shoot from the outside, he doesnt pull up and he cant take smaller players off the dribble.

The only effective way for him to score as a 3 is in transition or on the block but they dont do it, and even that is hard, because he doesnt really have good post moves and with Basabe and Woody in there too theres no spacing.

Whites just not a 3.
 
25% from 3 is equivalent to 42.5% from 2, which some players don't shoot. AW needs to be a threat from out there or it limits his offensive effectiveness. I say if they leave him wide open, shoot 4 in a game and see if he's got it dialed in. If he makes 2 or 3, the whole game changes for him and the team. If he misses all 4, so be it. I bet his % goes up if he starts taking more and doesn't worry about missing. He's just too tentative when he's open and finally decides to shoot it and the opponents and everyone else sees it.
 
cf84 said:
25% from 3 is equivalent to 42.5% from 2, which some players don't shoot. AW needs to be a threat from out there or it limits his offensive effectiveness. I say if they leave him wide open, shoot 4 in a game and see if he's got it dialed in. If he makes 2 or 3, the whole game changes for him and the team. If he misses all 4, so be it. I bet his % goes up if he starts taking more and doesn't worry about missing. He's just too tentative when he's open and finally decides to shoot it and the opponents and everyone else sees it.
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He needs to be a threat out there, I agree. But shooting at a 25% clip isn't going to make him a threat to anyone but his own team. Teams gladly give him the arc because they know he struggles to connect from out there.

He needs to improve as an outside shooter before he starts taking more outside shots.
 
tm3308 said:
He needs to be a threat out there, I agree. But shooting at a 25% clip isn't going to make him a threat to anyone but his own team. Teams gladly give him the arc because they know he struggles to connect from out there.

He needs to improve as an outside shooter before he starts taking more outside shots.
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But he'll never improve unless he tries and thereby limits his and the team's progress. Let's see, who else shot around 25% percent last year? Oh, yeah, Oglesby. Now, I'm not saying AW is the shooter JO is but no doubt in my mind he can do better than 25% of WIDE OPEN threes. It's a mental thing like JO and he should be able make at least 33%. We're not talking about a high volume of attempts here(4/17 I believe so actually 23% right now). If he makes 6 of next 13, then he's up to 33%, which is barely behind Marble(36%).

If he was at 40 attempts with 10 makes, then I'd be ready to say let's work on it for next year. But 17 attempts just isn't enough trials to make a conclusion. I'd bet he shoots it a lot better in practice just like we heard about JO all the time. His looks are usually like free throws from the arc so no reason he can't make 1/3. I need to see more attempts before giving up.
 
Yes more touches is good.

Good thing is, IL is up next and their D aint NEAR what we saw from MSU. Points to be had.
 
After White's rant about being tired of losing to team that Iowa is better than, I thought he would take it upon himself to do something about it.
 
cf84 said:
But he'll never improve unless he tries and thereby limits his and the team's progress. Let's see, who else shot around 25% percent last year? Oh, yeah, Oglesby. Now, I'm not saying AW is the shooter JO is but no doubt in my mind he can do better than 25% of WIDE OPEN threes. It's a mental thing like JO and he should be able make at least 33%. We're not talking about a high volume of attempts here(4/17 I believe so actually 23% right now). If he makes 6 of next 13, then he's up to 33%, which is barely behind Marble(36%).

If he was at 40 attempts with 10 makes, then I'd be ready to say let's work on it for next year. But 17 attempts just isn't enough trials to make a conclusion. I'd bet he shoots it a lot better in practice just like we heard about JO all the time. His looks are usually like free throws from the arc so no reason he can't make 1/3. I need to see more attempts before giving up.
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Seriously? The only way to improve your shooting percentage is to shoot in games? He's got all year round to work on developing a more consistent jumper. As for Oglesby, he shot 37% as a freshman before having a terrible year last year. White has been very consistent for 2+ years. He struggles from the outside.

And to reiterate, I'm not just looking at his current percentage, which is, as you said, 23%. He's a CAREER 25% shooter from behind the arc. He's got a rather strong track record of not hitting the long ball, much strong than JO.
 
White seems to be more worried about keeping his FG% at around 70 than anything else. He gets plenty of touches he just doesn't do anything with a lot of them. He needs to shoot when he has an open jumper from the elbow.
 
AW appears to shoot a set shot and hesitates too much. I agree that White needs to be more aggressive. That goes equally for Utthoff.
 
1hawkeye1 said:
Whatever happened to the AW we all saw vs isu?? He totally dominated that game.

He needs to be more involved offensively from the git-go. Can't afford for him to wait until the second half.
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Tonight, you will Aaron play like he did at Hilton, possibly better. Mark my words.
 
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