A little perspective concerning Iowa's D

... which Iowa will win 33-27! GO HAWKS!!

Did you watch the game?

You act as though the coaches weren't trying to get the ball to McNutt.

From what I recall watching ... I saw A LOT of check down passes. I also saw several balls that were floaters ... and several balls that were thrown behind the WRs. That is on Vandenberg ... NOT the coaches. I'm not baggin' on Vandenberg either. I think that he had a decent game ... and I think that he'll develop into a really good QB for Iowa.

As for Iowa's woes on D ... yeah, there were several items to take issue with. However, do you recall how many first-year starters our D features? Do you recall how many of the guys who were seeing significant playing time were underclassmen? If you recall such items ... and then also notice that we were in but our 2nd game of the season AND also notice that the opposing OTs featured multi-year starters ... one of who will possibly be a first round draft pick ... are you really so shocked?

I admit that I was surprised ... but I wasn't shocked.

What's more ... I reported before the season that many guys on the DL were dinged up ... and that would invariably slow the development of our D ... particularly on the DL.

I was right. As a result, I'm not going to throw the players or the coaches under the bus ... particularly when we're still in a developmental stage of the season.

I think that some fans have trouble differentiating between the reality of the college game and the pro-game ... or between the reality of the college game and their own fantasy football exploits.

Instead, we're talking about a group of young men who are still at the early stages of their football careers (if they even end up remaining in the game). We're talking about guys who have a TON to improve upon and a TON to learn about.

A lot of stupid-a$$ fans want to only win in the moment ... and they simply don't realize that there is an intrinsic trade-off between tweaking schemes for short-term gain versus sticking to the fundamentals and having players make the requisite improvements in their game.

An occasional lost game here or there ... particularly in what should be a developmental year for us ... it will sting in the short term ... however the lessons learned will make the players that much better in the future. And it will also help propel them to future success.

If fans want to second-guess or complain about the team ... I'd complain about the kick coverage. Of course, Ferentz was clearly disappointed about the kick coverage game too. You can't force the D to defend a short field that often and not give up plenty of points. One might also complain about NOT going for it on 4th and goal in the 3rd overtime. Ferentz again has acknowledged that that was probably a mistake.
 
Really Homer, you're going to blame it on inexperience on the defense? They got shredded by a QB playing his first ever FBS team, who only one week prior was bottled up by UNI. They had every opportunity to stop the ISU offense, and they failed every time (IIRC, they had gave up 5 important scoring drives in the 4th Q and OT).

All this for an Iowa team that is supposedly much more talented? You cannot realistically account 5 separate failures on defense to inexperience! There is clearly a deficiency in talent or coaching.
 
Really Homer, you're going to blame it on inexperience on the defense? They got shredded by a QB playing his first ever FBS team, who only one week prior was bottled up by UNI. They had every opportunity to stop the ISU offense, and they failed every time (IIRC, they had gave up 5 important scoring drives in the 4th Q and OT).

All this for an Iowa team that is supposedly much more talented? You cannot realistically account 5 separate failures on defense to inexperience! There is clearly a deficiency in talent or coaching.

Wow...so you just reload and go right back at it huh every year. Whenever you lose what we lost in the D-line you are prone to have growing pains. Couple that with a team that plays well, gains confidence, and their QB has a career day, well, upsets can happen. It wasn't like they didn't have issues during those scoring drives either. Jantz just made the plays when the chips were down and Norm didn't throw the kitchen sink at him in those situations like he should have.

I'll go back to the 2005 team who got absolutely crushed by ASU...they were inexperienced yet they made huge strides throughout the year and became a good defense. I say, by mid year, these guys will be solid. Our offense is going to have to outscore some people though.
 
Wow...so you just reload and go right back at it huh every year. Whenever you lose what we lost in the D-line you are prone to have growing pains. Couple that with a team that plays well, gains confidence, and their QB has a career day, well, upsets can happen. It wasn't like they didn't have issues during those scoring drives either. Jantz just made the plays when the chips were down and Norm didn't throw the kitchen sink at him in those situations like he should have.

I'll go back to the 2005 team who got absolutely crushed by ASU...they were inexperienced yet they made huge strides throughout the year and became a good defense. I say, by mid year, these guys will be solid. Our offense is going to have to outscore some people though.

You realize that you are taking an issue with my post blaming a deficiency in talent and coaching by pointing out specific issues in talent and coaching correct?

If you insist on living in the past, I'll go back to the 2010 team that had, what will be 5 NFL players on its roster, losing early and late season games, due in part, to inflexible defensive schemes.
 
So basically we have whittled it down to ISU actually gained just 48 yards of offense and Iowa shut then out
 
So basically we have whittled it down to ISU actually gained just 48 yards of offense and Iowa shut then out

I reckon so. And if we had kept our punter off the field or tackled their punter we wouldn't be here angry and wishin' fer ISU to beat UCONN to make ourselves feel better...I don't know what I just wrote but it's too late to edit. I will presee submit now.
 
I am still optimistic about the season, I just took a look at the schedule and it d*mn near sets up perfectly for this team. You will have about a 5 game stretch to experiment and move people around and still win ballgames.

I.hope.you.are.right.lil.Miss.Sunshine.
 
Really Homer, you're going to blame it on inexperience on the defense? They got shredded by a QB playing his first ever FBS team, who only one week prior was bottled up by UNI. They had every opportunity to stop the ISU offense, and they failed every time (IIRC, they had gave up 5 important scoring drives in the 4th Q and OT).

All this for an Iowa team that is supposedly much more talented? You cannot realistically account 5 separate failures on defense to inexperience! There is clearly a deficiency in talent or coaching.

I'm sorry but have you bothered to do your homework?

A common denominator that typically goes a long ways to determining the outcome of ISU vs Iowa games are the match-ups in the trenches.

The fact remains that ISU started 3 multi-year starters on the OL ... one of whom is a contender for a first round draft pick. Furthermore, where their top guys on the OL are positioned ... Osemele was well positioned to open up things big-time for them against LeBron Daniel ... and Hicks put a big body on Daniels ... and that undermined a lot of Daniels productivity.

On top of that, ISU's OL was coming off of a terrible performance by their OL ... a performance that was much like the performance of Iowa's OL against UNI 2 years ago ... they were missing a number of key guys and their juggled line simply didn't play very well.

While it's not always a factor that I read too much into ... but sometimes JUCO guys are able to have their experieince from starting on the JUCO level translate well over to the D1 level. If you've watched Jantz since the end of the UNI game ... the guy continues to make plays. He played great against Iowa ... and then he had a pretty gutty performance against UConn AT UConn!

Lastly, I recommend that you go back and watch the ISU vs Iowa game. ISU's OL played pretty darn well ... and Iowa's DL also played a bit high.

By the way that Iowa got manhandled against Arizona State in '04 ... one could easily have viewed a Big 10 conference title as a pipe dream ... and yet it still happened. The game against ASU just happened to be another one of those game where Iowa had some key guys abandon technique ... and we got pasted as a result.

I truly believe that the ISU game will serve as a poignant lesson for the '11 Hawks.
 
I don't care how many paragraphs you use to spin the same sorry tale homer, the fact remains despite how many pointless irrelevant past examples you can pull out, that doesn't change what was painfully obvious last Saturday.
 

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