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[SeattleHawkeye]

The only things I vehemently disagreed with you about was how physical the league is and that there is no way that Taylor will make it through the season running as much as he does.

I always stated that Taylor could get hurt playing a B1G team, just as easily as he could against a Big 12 team, or a C-USA team. It’s a physical game.

The other point is that you feel that the B1G is a much more physical league than we are used to. I don’t know how Wisconsin stacks up against the rest of the B1G, but their d-line got almost no push at all. The running game was there for us, if we would have rode Rex and sprinkled Taylor in, we were getting 3, 4, or 5 yards a clip most of the time. Our d-line played like they had against the other teams we faced this year, until we got wore down in the 4th quarter due to the 10 minute discrepancy in time of possession. The reason we lost was because: 1) turnovers, 2) coaching (Wisc. had a better game plan), and 3) execution.

UW isn't usually an overly good defensive team. MSU, IA, OSU and PSU all usually field better, harder hitting defensive teams than UW, often one (or 2-3) of those teams playing elite level D. It's not that the B10 has one supremely dominant defensive team, it's that it usually has 4-5 that will knock the **** out of your team all game, and it's the slow, methodical pulverizing that wears your team down over an entire season. I guess my comparison would be having 4-5 typical UN defenses in the league, as opposed to 1 or 2. And Michigan's D will be back to form soon - it's only a matter of time. And there are typically some B10 teams that are usually poor on defense - specifically Minny and IU as of late.

 

[74Hunter]

I'm right there with you. I thought they would be one of the best defenses in the country this year. I still feel like they're capable of playing like that for games at a time, which is why I'm not going to read too much into them getting raped by Wisconsin.

We just played like crap, have all year. Missed assignments, missed tackles, I'm not sure if it is due to good players graduating, changes in the coaching staff, or what. The talent seems to be ok, but something isn't right.

As I have said since day one of the Pelini era...he is not a head coach!

I'm not about to throw the baby out with the bathwater just yet (no pun intended), but there definitely are questions and concerns in Lincoln right now. No doubt about it.

 

[loesshillshawk]

We just played like crap, have all year. Missed assignments, missed tackles, I'm not sure if it is due to good players graduating, changes in the coaching staff, or what. The talent seems to be ok, but something isn't right.


I'm not about to throw the baby out with the bathwater just yet (no pun intended), but there definitely are questions and concerns in Lincoln right now. No doubt about it.

74hunter...really just jesting with you. Don't argue your programs rich heritage. Being a football guy and coach, I don't feel Bo has the temperament to be a head coach. I think he is a good D coordinator, but the rest is out of his league. You have talent...we will see if Bo rights the ship.

 

[truehawk]

Hey at least you can admit they suck. The omaha world herald is so bias its sickening. Talking about how neb had chances but they didn't capitalize and they said only four plays caused the loss. what a joke you were outmatched the second you walked onto the field
no matter how good the play calling or ability to execute you would have lost by 3 scores. Just not on the same level. And no way you guys would lose to anyone that bad is in the big 12. You can't bring boys to play men and expect to win

 

[DodgerHawki]

To sum it up, if this is the best team in the Big 10, and if they are the most physical team in the league, I wasn’t overly impressed. They are good, but they are not elite. Wisconsin isn’t the 4th best team in the nation, there are probably 4 or 5 better SEC teams, and 3 or 4 better Big 12 teams. Physicality will not be an issue, Oklahoma and Texas A&M were more physical last year. texa$$, at least defensively, was more physical. Wisconsin won by having a better gameplan, sticking with the plan, and executing it. We were outcoached, we made mistakes and had mental breakdowns on both sides of the ball, Wisconsin took advantage of those mistakes, made plays, and executed. They won and deserved to win, congrats to them, but I hope we get another shot at them.
Ok, I expect to get it from ya'll, let me have it.

This is one of the funnier things of the whole thread. Oklahoma, and even perhaps Okie State, are as good/better than Wisconsin from the B12. We won't ever know for sure, as Wisconsin doesn't play the B12 schedule. Who are the others? Texas A&M? Uh, no. Texas? Maybe, who knows, but my guess is no.

And 4-5 better teams in the SEC? Really? Alabama and LSU, sure.

I would agree that Wisconsin's defense is nothing special. But all they have to be is just average with what Wisconsin rolls out on offense. Huge, physical o-line. Above average, not great, receivers. Very good running backs. Very good quarterback. FYI, in the first two possessions of the second half (with the game still in doubt and one would suspect Nebraska with still some stamina left) Wisconsin crammed it down Nebraska's throat with a drive of 42 yards (on 7 plays, all rushes), and then 14 plays, 81 yards (with 10 rushes). That is called an ***-kicking. Oh, and they followed it up with a 13-play TD drive, with 12 of those rushes. That's 34 plays in a row where Wisconsin basically said we're going to run it and you can't do a darn thing about it. I hate the Badgers as much as anyone, but they are unmatched right now in terms of having a physical offense.

 

[74Hunter]

Hey at least you can admit they suck. The omaha world herald is so bias its sickening. Talking about how neb had chances but they didn't capitalize and they said only four plays caused the loss. what a joke you were outmatched the second you walked onto the field
no matter how good the play calling or ability to execute you would have lost by 3 scores. Just not on the same level. And no way you guys would lose to anyone that bad is in the big 12.

As for the bolded, I disagree. The game was a dogfight until we had 3 straight INTs that ended up as Wisc. TD's. Even though our guys were open, the playcalling was suspect, and the execution was even worse.

Even up the turnover margin, get back a couple of those Wisconsin TD drives that were extended by questionable penalties, and if the defense makes a couple of plays (the long pass to Toon that went right through Evan's hands, etc), and this is a much closer game. Does Nebraska win, IDK, its doubtful, but it's not the route that it ended up.

You can't bring boys to play men and expect to win.

I'm assuming you are referring to the B1G being a tougher league than the Big 12, and if so, that is your opinion. I think that history indicates otherwise.

This is one of the funnier things of the whole thread. Oklahoma, and even perhaps Okie State, are as good/better than Wisconsin from the B12. We won't ever know for sure, as Wisconsin doesn't play the B12 schedule. Who are the others? Texas A&M? Uh, no. Texas? Maybe, who knows, but my guess is no.

And 4-5 better teams in the SEC? Really? Alabama and LSU, sure.

OU, OSU, Texas, A&M, LSU, Bama, Florida, and Arkansas all would far very well against Wisconsin, imo, just like TCU did against them last year.

I would agree that Wisconsin's defense is nothing special. But all they have to be is just average with what Wisconsin rolls out on offense. Huge, physical o-line. Above average, not great, receivers. Very good running backs. Very good quarterback. FYI, in the first two possessions of the second half (with the game still in doubt and one would suspect Nebraska with still some stamina left) Wisconsin crammed it down Nebraska's throat with a drive of 42 yards (on 7 plays, all rushes), and then 14 plays, 81 yards (with 10 rushes). That is called an ***-kicking. Oh, and they followed it up with a 13-play TD drive, with 12 of those rushes. That's 34 plays in a row where Wisconsin basically said we're going to run it and you can't do a darn thing about it. I hate the Badgers as much as anyone, but they are unmatched right now in terms of having a physical offense.

I have seen physical offenses. This offense is not THAT physical. As a matter of fact, they didn't do anything more special or spectacular than Fresno St or Washington did, with the exception of complete a few more long passes.

As for what happened after halftime, yes, they carved us but at least 2 Husker defenders said that some/most of their fellow defensive mates flat out gave up. Dennard said so in the post game interview, and reserve CB Antonio Bell tweeted it. It's pretty sad, pathetic really. I would have rather them manned up, played their azzes off and get pounded into submission as opposed to checking out at halftime. It was embarrassing.

We will likely not see eye to eye on this, reply if you'd like, but I respectfully disagree with both of you.

 

[ssckelley]

So if Wisconsin is not all that good/physical but some of the B12 and SEC is better?

You lost by 31 points to that weak azz team!!! So what happens if you play LSU or Oklahoma, you lost by 50?

You know what your problem is? You are still thinking like you are in the B12!

 

[ISUhawk]

I don't like Nebraska

 

[Hawks1]

They are good, but they are not elite. Wisconsin isn’t the 4th best team in the nation, there are probably 4 or 5 better SEC teams, and 3 or 4 better Big 12 teams.

so what does that make you?

 

[bxy]

You weren't the only one, people tried telling him Wisconsin would roll but yet he thought the "black shirts" were better then they are and was convinced it would be a close game. He said he would be back to take his medicine so let's see.

The bad news for us now is with OSU coming to Lincoln their D will look stellar again because the OSU offense sucks so bad it will inflate the egos again.

Wisconsin was the best bet in the past 5 years......somehow a "N" on your helmet means you are automatically good.

 

[shrimpster4]

I also do not like Nebraska.

 

[HawkeyeMHA]

I also do not like Nebraska.

I also do not like Nebraska.

 

[74Hunter]

I also do not like Nebraska.

Well apparently you were not raised properly.















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