68.5%, not bad





ArizonaHawkeye88 said:
Notre Dame--14th in the country on recruiting but 46th in winning percentage. If I was a recruit why would I even think about ND.
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Part of that is due to the fact that kids being recruited by ND usually get bumped up just because they are being recruited by ND. This leads to inflated recruiting rankings for a lot of their classes.
 


ArizonaHawkeye88 said:
Notre Dame--14th in the country on recruiting but 46th in winning percentage. If I was a recruit why would I even think about ND.
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Because like hundreds of others, they buy into the "come to ND and be part of the team that turns the corner and brings us back to the glory days" BS. Despite the fact they're usually over-rated and haven't been a NC contender in years (possibly decades) they are still a media darling and people still by into it.
 








"Here's a look at the 10 best teams in terms of winning percentage from 2002-10 who are not in the top 25 recruiting rankings".

Yes, we are on a separate list and yes we are overachievers with respect to our recruiting ranking. My statement about honorable mention is incorrect, we are much better than that!!
 


So Wiscy is 4 spots above us in recruiting ranking, but just one spot above in winning percentage. It's all those games against the lower tier that we should easily win, but don't, that add up.
 


ArizonaHawkeye88 said:
Notre Dame--14th in the country on recruiting but 46th in winning percentage. If I was a recruit why would I even think about ND.
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Agreed. Though closet Domers on this site might disagree as they see ND as a better destination if it's a choice between Iowa and ND.:rolleyes:
 


Iowa finished a very close second(UW was slightly among overachievers who play in good conferences. Boise State, TCU, Utah, WVU(The Big East is NOT a good conference) etc are good teams but, play in poor conferences. They play weak schedules and beat up on patsies while impressing pollsters, resting starters, avoiding critical injuries, and preparing for their better opponents. No disrespect to the teams I mentioned above they deserve credit for their success but it's a different animal having to prepare for a Big Ten schedule than Boise State's...

2010

Virginia Tech(a top 25 finisher. A 33-30 win. Good win)
Wyoming
Oregon St., a second tier but, decent Pac-10 team. A decent win.
New Mexico St.???
Toledo MAC team
San Jose St.??
Louisiana Tech??
Hawaii, weren't they complaining about not being in a BCS game a few years back?
Nevada, a loss. Nevada is a pretty good team.
Utah St. Really?
Utah, a good win

They finished after the bowl game(obviously this helped their SOS) with the 81st toughest schedule in the country. TCU, the 76th best. Consider this was Boise State's HARDEST schedule in years. The 2009-2010 season their SOS was 96th, 2008-9 94th, 2007-8, 113th. I'm not arguing here that BSU or TCU aren't good teams but, it's a different animal when you have to play Arizona, UW, OSU, MSU, Northwestern, and UM. Even weak sisters in the conference can reach up and catch if you're injury riddled or simply on an emotional down. There's not much coasting there. Not pulling the starters just after the half and sparing them aggravating an injury or worse.

So, looking at it purely from a winning percentage versus the recruiting ranking is a bit of a shallow analysis. It's interesting but, it's more of a starting point than the final analysis of who are the top overachievers in the country.
 


kicker22 said:
Because like hundreds of others, they buy into the "come to ND and be part of the team that turns the corner and brings us back to the glory days" BS. Despite the fact they're usually over-rated and haven't been a NC contender in years (possibly decades) they are still a media darling and people still by into it.
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It's because ND can pluck the best players from the best Catholic schools across the country. It just so happens that the bestest football players aren't going to catholic schools anymore. They're coming from rural and suburban southern schools.
 


Granted, Boise State may not be in a power conference, which skews their winning percentage, but it's still pretty darned impressive for them to field a team as good as they are with an average recruiting ranking of 76.
 




What jumps out to me is how skewed the rankings system is. Notice all the oversigners on that list? Ole Miss? seriously?. Rivals does some good things but nearly every SEC school on that list signs at least 25 and usually more which punishes schools that only sign to their scholarship allotment. Also players that don't qualify but may be 4 or 5 stars screw it up as well. I love their corrected rankings however.
 


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