374 to 19!

ColumbusHawk

ColumbusHawk

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Actual football score. According to Scout.com, from '11 to '14, Ohio produced 374 three* or better recruits. Iowa only had 19 such players. It's freakin' Iowa. In four years Iowa couldn't even produce one recruiting class. Look at all the Ohio players that performed very well for the Hawks this year. They all have one thing in common. The players weren't good enough to play for the Buckeyes.
 


ColumbusHawk said:
Actual football score. According to Scout.com, from '11 to '14, Ohio produced 374 three* or better recruits. Iowa only had 19 such players. It's freakin' Iowa. In four years Iowa couldn't even produce one recruiting class. Look at all the Ohio players that performed very well for the Hawks this year. They all have one thing in common. The players weren't good enough to play for the Buckeyes.
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Uhhh.....ok.

Is coke the official state of Ohio drug?
 


ColumbusHawk said:
Actual football score. According to Scout.com, from '11 to '14, Ohio produced 374 three* or better recruits. Iowa only had 19 such players. It's freakin' Iowa. In four years Iowa couldn't even produce one recruiting class. Look at all the Ohio players that performed very well for the Hawks this year. They all have one thing in common. The players weren't good enough to play for the Buckeyes.
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Is there a point other than Ohio produces a lot more talent than Iowa? Cuz if not, we were already there.
 


OSU does not recruit players at every position every year. And its a guess many times as to which 1 player is the best at a given spot any given year.
 


Yes, Iowa should be on the bottom of the Big Ten every year. Year end & year out, since 1979, one of the best coaching jobs in the country has been performed in Iowa City. It's a state with absolutely no talent. The last Iowa high school kid to rush for over 1,000 yards in the NFL was Roger Craig. He played at Davenport Central well over thirty years ago. It really is amazing what Hayden & Kirk have done at Iowa.
 


I agree it just goes to show how good of a coach Ferentz really is. I think Ferentz does a damn good job at developing.lower rated players and competing every yr. Take for instance Michigan recruiting classes the last 3 yrs have been way better than ours and we still beat them this yr. It just goes to show how good of a coach Ferentz really is. If he was coaching somewhere like Usc or TX With all the talent they get evety yr he would probably have 3or 4 national titles now. GO HAWKS!
 


ColumbusHawk said:
Actual football score. According to Scout.com, from '11 to '14, Ohio produced 374 three* or better recruits. Iowa only had 19 such players. It's freakin' Iowa. In four years Iowa couldn't even produce one recruiting class. Look at all the Ohio players that performed very well for the Hawks this year. They all have one thing in common. The players weren't good enough to play for the Buckeyes.
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On a basketball side, Aaron White would be good enough to play for the Buckeyes.

Oklahoma and Okie State usually get the so-called Texas leftovers, and they do well.

Iowa still recruits Illinois very well. We've lost our Florida pipeline we enjoyed in the early years.

Also from 2011 to 2014, our reputation was hurt from the collapse of the 2010 season, mix in some rhabdomyolysis news, a 4-8 season in 2012. We lost some solid in-state talent these years.
After this season, hopefully the recruiting wheels are back on track.
 








ColumbusHawk said:
Actual football score. According to Scout.com, from '11 to '14, Ohio produced 374 three* or better recruits. Iowa only had 19 such players. It's freakin' Iowa. In four years Iowa couldn't even produce one recruiting class. Look at all the Ohio players that performed very well for the Hawks this year. They all have one thing in common. The players weren't good enough to play for the Buckeyes.
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The players weren't good enough in the eyes of Ohio State at the time they were in high school. Some kids get better. Iowa does a good job of making players better, because as you note, many Ohio kids, who apparentley weren't good enough in high school in the eyes of Ohio State, ended up playing very well for Iowa this year. That's the name of the game for Iowa.
 


Do you supposed that each state's population has anything to do with that? Ohio 11.54 million compared to 3.074 million in Iowa. Bigger cities, bigger schools, better competition, better athletes, more recognition. By comparison, Iowa does pretty well with basketball talent. I am guessing it would still lag well behind Ohio for the same reasons above.
 




Thing is its not about talent, its more about youth coaching.
I know several six foot to six foot seven, three hundred pound guys from Iowa, who never played beyond hs.
It starts with communities and then youth coaching.
 


olddude said:
Thing is its not about talent, its more about youth coaching.
I know several six foot to six foot seven, three hundred pound guys from Iowa, who never played beyond hs.
It starts with communities and then youth coaching.
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I was 6'6" 280 as freshman in High School at a large DSM Metro High School in the late 90s. I played Junior High ball but didn't go out for high school as I chose to work. However, I was not even asked by anyone on the coaching staff if I wanted to play. I'm not saying I was some rare talent, I wasn't, but there were maybe 3 guys in the school that were my size. So, take that for what it is. I am reasonably sure if I was unfortunate enough to have lived south of the Mason Dixon line that the situation would of been a little different.
 


One thing about Urban Meyer, he recruits Florida very well, securing another top WR yesterday out of Sunshine State. Got the top lber in the country out of Georgia the day before.

That is a tough reality, but it does mean that OSU cannot lock down as many in Ohio, where Iowa and the rest of the Big Ten recruit.
 


There is a bias against a lot of the small school players. Take Nate Meier for example. Kids with his ability could play well for any school in the nation. He could have easily had been 3 stars at a bigger high school based on his talent. Wasn't Dallas Clark in the same boat? There is a lot of talented players in state that don't get their due.
 


Hawknick said:
There is a bias against a lot of the small school players. Take Nate Meier for example. Kids with his ability could play well for any school in the nation. He could have easily had been 3 stars at a bigger high school based on his talent. Wasn't Dallas Clark in the same boat? There is a lot of talented players in state that don't get their due.
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Dallas Clark was a walk-on, I think you are thinking more of Chad Greenway when comparing similiar stories. He came from a really small school and was underrecruited by many.
 


Yes, but he was from North Dakota. Drew Ott would be another example, he is out of Nebraska. Point is there are talented players out of small schools that don't get respect. As far as Clark goes he is from Livermore Iowa population 384. If he had been at a bigger school he might have gotten stars and a scholarship offer. So he was a step down from Meier entering college.
 


Thats why it is nice to see guys holding camps, after they "retire".
Now it just needs to be very accessible.
In camps all the measurables are taken and it does not matter what size school you come from.
Plus as was said, hs coaches need to step it up. Who lets a 6'6inch 280# freshman go without playing? Christ I would have been on him like stink on ****. Then I would have asked if he had any brothers or cousins near by.
 


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