2024-2025 CF Playoffs

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It was intriguing right up to the first quarter of each game. Right now its halftime of Clemson Texas. After watching games this weekend, again, I'm humbled and realize how far Iowa is away from legit contention. I'm keeping my eye out for news about that PSU QB. And I see the Indiana backup who came from Tennesee has hit the portal.
 
I was underwhelmed by the teams selected for the 12 spots. Indiana, no. ND, yawn. Penn State, cannot tell. Weird game, pick sixes decided the game. Coach sucks. SMU, nope. So far, Tennessee, no. OSU, fits in the playoff. Maybe will win it all. But, Oregon? We shall see. Clemson, nope. Texas, maybe. So far, boredom defined. Not a promising future for 12 team playoff? Who wants to watch the first round? Not me.

No NC. Iowa is not far away from at least the teams that lost today.
Without the devastation of Iowa’s QB room, they would be 50/50with Indiana, SMU, Clemson.maybe Tennessee. History shows NDame is consistently over rated.

Anyway, thank God I got to watch a great basketball game. Hawks win!
 
What stuck out to me was that if you are a road underdog, it's a very difficult environment. That was especially true if a team has to travel north into a cold, outdoor stadium. All of the home teams won this weekend and none of the games were particularly close.
 
We complain about bad games.
Do we want a champion crowned or good football?
While, not mutually exclusive...the ONLY way to determine a champ with 160 teams that can only play once a week...

Is to send conference champions to the playoffs. And at this point, it's the power 3. If Alabama and Boise St. (etc) wants to join the Big 12 or something, then we can go back to a 4 team playoff. Put Notre Dame in too. Or maybe the Big 12 can work a deal...play the MW champ and the winner gets into the final 4.

The other conferences? Sorry. You've been relegated. That's just business.

I can start a pro football team. But until Jerry Jones says I can, I can't play in the Super Bowl.
 
What this weekend shows me is that next year should be an eight team playoff. Beyond eight teams there is a big gap in ability. I suppose more money will mean we stay with the status quo but the first round was a complete waste of time.
 
What this weekend shows me is that next year should be an eight team playoff. Beyond eight teams there is a big gap in ability. I suppose more money will mean we stay with the status quo but the first round was a complete waste of time.
Totally agree. In basketball, the 12th best team can get hot in the tournament and make a run towards a title. In football it's completely different. In reality, there are 3-4 teams that have a legitimate shot to win it all. And it's like that every year.
 
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What this weekend shows me is that next year should be an eight team playoff. Beyond eight teams there is a big gap in ability. I suppose more money will mean we stay with the status quo but the first round was a complete waste of time.
It did seem that the 9-12 seeds were overmatched.
Go to 8.
P4 conference champs should be in.
4 at-large teams
Seeds based on power rankings, SoS and other relevant criteria. Not just # of wins.
Keep the home field for the top four seeds in the quarterfinals.
Neutral* or balanced bowl sites for the semis and finals. (hard to do - but a better balance of geographic locations would be more equitable)

*Sugar (LA), Orange (FL), Peach (GA) & Cotton (TX) in the SEC footprint are not neutral sites
 
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What this weekend shows me is that next year should be an eight team playoff. Beyond eight teams there is a big gap in ability. I suppose more money will mean we stay with the status quo but the first round was a complete waste of time.

Yeah, it's a money grabbing circus and lacks the luster of the Past New Years Games

Rose Bowl, Orange Bowl, Cotton Bowl, Sugar Bowl, Peach and perhaps The Fiesta Bowl
 
You mean like Iowa in 2015?

Yes, that year would be a good example. We get knocked out by Michigan State and then Michigan State gets trounced. If I remember correctly there was another highly rated Big Ten team that got their asses handed to them toward the end of the season or in the post season.
 
Here's my take. The biggest issue isn't "the teams with high totals of wins" get in, it's that they were more deserving of a playoff birth then the teams with higher SOS. Case in point, the argument that Bama "deserved" to be in over teams with soft schedules like SMU, IU, SMU, and maybe even ND. The problem IMO isn't the mentality that the teams with 10 or 11 wins "deserved" to be there, but rather the teams with higher SOS "deserved to be left out.

SEC bias exists and has, regardless of whether we feel that they got screwed or not by having the first 3 out. Here's the issue. There will and has always been that bias and the SEC has always benefitted from it. Unfortunately, this season Bama lost 2 games that simply couldn't give them the benefit of the doubt and suddenly the shift becomes "deserving" teams shouldn't be in and it should be about the 12 best teams not being represented. The problem with saying "best" should replace those deemed deserving is that through out the course of the season the "deserving" teams proved they deserved a chance and those "best teams" that got snubbed led by Bama showed they may have been a better team, but based on the way they crapped themselves by allowing Vandy to drop 40 on them and only getting a FG against Oklahoma, definitely proved the point that while maybe being "better" they were not deserving and didn't belong there.

I have absolutely 0 issues with the the committee selecting the 12 teams they did and felt they got it right. What I have issue with is the fact that went to a 12 team format in which 4 teams received byes. I feel it would have been better to just go with a 16 team format. I don't think that round 1's games sucked because certain teams "didn't belong", but rather the fact that my 5 year old could have actually seeded it like a tournament should be seeded.

Seeding was the issue not the teams. While I don't feel SOS should have been the deciding factor in terms of who got in or left out there was absolutely no logical explanation as to why/how Boise State and Arizona State were worthy of byes. You give the 4 best teams in the field the higher seeds and the byes you don't have a first round in which the winner of 3 of the 4 games simply outclassed or over matched the opposition.

In short seeding was the problem that led to the perceived bad first round games and blowouts rather then the committee got it wrong. But totally agree with Hadensly in the fact that there's only 3-4 teams that have the ability to win it all and the rest of the playoffs is about bringing more hype to the end of the season and giving it a bigger stage.
 
Here's my take. The biggest issue isn't "the teams with high totals of wins" get in, it's that they were more deserving of a playoff birth then the teams with higher SOS. Case in point, the argument that Bama "deserved" to be in over teams with soft schedules like SMU, IU, SMU, and maybe even ND. The problem IMO isn't the mentality that the teams with 10 or 11 wins "deserved" to be there, but rather the teams with higher SOS "deserved to be left out.

SEC bias exists and has, regardless of whether we feel that they got screwed or not by having the first 3 out. Here's the issue. There will and has always been that bias and the SEC has always benefitted from it. Unfortunately, this season Bama lost 2 games that simply couldn't give them the benefit of the doubt and suddenly the shift becomes "deserving" teams shouldn't be in and it should be about the 12 best teams not being represented. The problem with saying "best" should replace those deemed deserving is that through out the course of the season the "deserving" teams proved they deserved a chance and those "best teams" that got snubbed led by Bama showed they may have been a better team, but based on the way they crapped themselves by allowing Vandy to drop 40 on them and only getting a FG against Oklahoma, definitely proved the point that while maybe being "better" they were not deserving and didn't belong there.

I have absolutely 0 issues with the the committee selecting the 12 teams they did and felt they got it right. What I have issue with is the fact that went to a 12 team format in which 4 teams received byes. I feel it would have been better to just go with a 16 team format. I don't think that round 1's games sucked because certain teams "didn't belong", but rather the fact that my 5 year old could have actually seeded it like a tournament should be seeded.

Seeding was the issue not the teams. While I don't feel SOS should have been the deciding factor in terms of who got in or left out there was absolutely no logical explanation as to why/how Boise State and Arizona State were worthy of byes. You give the 4 best teams in the field the higher seeds and the byes you don't have a first round in which the winner of 3 of the 4 games simply outclassed or over matched the opposition.

In short seeding was the problem that led to the perceived bad first round games and blowouts rather then the committee got it wrong. But totally agree with Hadensly in the fact that there's only 3-4 teams that have the ability to win it all and the rest of the playoffs is about bringing more hype to the end of the season and giving it a bigger stage.
Okay. Name the "only 3-4 teams that have the ability to win it all" this year.
 
Okay. Name the "only 3-4 teams that have the ability to win it all" this year.
IMO, those four are Texas, Georgia, Ohio State and Oregon. Boise State and Arizona State have 0% chances. Penn State is a very good team but they've already had a chance to beat Ohio State and Oregon and they failed on both tries. Notre Dame is also a very good team but a notch below the top four.

We'll have to see how it plays out.
 
Okay. Name the "only 3-4 teams that have the ability to win it all" this year.
I'd say going into round one that Texas, ND/UGA winner, and Oregon/OSU winner are the teams that have a legitimate shot at winning this year. I'm not saying there's not a chance, but would you argue that Boise State, Arizona St, or IU, Clemson, or SMU (before they were eliminated) had a decent chance at winning it all? I'm not saying it's impossible, and upsets can happen, but do you think a program like SMU or Indiana are going to knock be able to string 3 straight wins together against the best of the best?

I'm not pretending it'd be impossible for a team to do it, but I don't think there's ever going to be the "Cinderella story" you see in March Madness where a team comes out of nowhere to to make a historic run. I'm all for the underdogs, but I simply don't think you're going to see that in football anytime soon.
 

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