2 Commits!!
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imported_ankle23
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i assume one is the iowa 8 man kid...
spliff45
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that would be my guess as well.
TwinCitiesHawk
Weaksauce
It's Meier.
DexterMorgan
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very excited about both of these guys
HawkeyeRyno
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We needed that JUCO RB more than than another OL. Kozan is great addition but probably not for 2-3 years. Running back is a position of more need RIGHT NOW. Garmon has accolades but what happens if he doesn't pan out or the AIRBHG strikes? Would have been real nice to have an experienced RB start and then Garmon get some backup duties. Hill is also a freshmen and then Canzeri is 170 pounds. These guys aren't built right now for taking a beating.
Iowa is also going to have a young OL replacing a lot of starters. Mix that with freshmen RBs and could be some issues. Wegher and Robinson were freshmen, I understand but also had Stanzi at QB and DJK and McNutt at WR. Passing game could struggle next season too.
Iowa is also going to have a young OL replacing a lot of starters. Mix that with freshmen RBs and could be some issues. Wegher and Robinson were freshmen, I understand but also had Stanzi at QB and DJK and McNutt at WR. Passing game could struggle next season too.
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CRHawk2002
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While I understand the initial reaction to say we needed Harris (juco RB) more than another OL. I guess I would take the highly recruited OL being recruited by Oregon, UM, OSU, LSU and Auburn that we will get for 4-5 years, over the juco RB being recruited by Cal and Cincy that we would get for 2 years on the field. And, considering the loss of 3 OL that logged significant playing time, Kozan would be a welcome addition.
Churlish79
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You really gotta ignore, Ryno.
We NEEDED 3 OLs.. we got 3 OLs. And 2 of them are 4*s. That's a win. Right there.
HawkeyeRyno
Banned
That's great we got them. They'll be needed in 2-3 seasons. I was just stating that running back is far more a concern of need than OL. I wasn't worried about getting recruits at OL, Iowa does it every single year and attrition isn't a problem at that position either.
DexterMorgan
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We could have used both. It's not as if we decided to take Kozan over Harris.
hawkfarmer
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Iowa doesn't get 4* recruits at OL every year, and if you think a JUCO RB was going to step in be the savior next year I think you were kidding yourself. I wanted him too, but he chose not to even visit Iowa, not sure what else you can do about that. Next year is going to be a struggle, period, and there is no way around that, even if we got the #1 RB recruit in the nation.
DexterMorgan
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we have recently.
Yep, 2 this year (Kozan, Ward).. 2 last year (Blythe, Walsh), and 1 the year before.. (Donnal).
hawkfarmer
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That's 5 in 3 years. I don't consider that a ton of 4* talent every year. I'm not saying it's bad, cause it is great, but to say you'd rather have a JUCO RB than a 4* linemen which we need to have 5 really good ones play ever year, I think is crazy, and I don't consider a trend of 5 guys in 3 years an overwhelming trend.
STILLBUSTER
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Love how everyone gets boners over these guys as if they mean anything right now. Bank it, unless his hand is forced by either injury or attrition, these "saviors" are not going to sniff the field for 2 or 3 years.
Two immutable facts as long as KF is in charge:
1) Seniority and experience will get the nod over youthful talent.
2) Execution (to the point of perfection) is far more preferred over the potential risk of a youthful mistake.
Cases in point last year:
1) Herman and Derby over Fiedorowicz for most of the season. Why? Because they could block better? Meanwhile, the TE (an integral mainstay of the offense) production is almost non-existent during a season it was desparately needed.
(When the "light went on" regarding CJ, it wasn't so much for the player, it was for the coach realizing the risk / reward and potential / experience trade-off.)
2) Tobin over Walsh, Scherff and Donnal? Of course! There's no such thing as a 4* 6'5"+, 290#+ offensive lineman that could ever be ready to play before his sophomore (better yet, junior) year. Way to much possibility for lack of understanding this sophisticated offense and making an execution error.
3) During a year when the DL was getting pushed around -- allowing the opponent to basically establish the line of scrimmage 2 - 3 yards further downfield -- you basically sit your two, 290-300# run-pluggers in Cooper and Davis? Why, because they might overplay a gap (even though they would consume a blocker at the first level, rather than be a nothing more than a bug on the windshield) and supposedly have motor issues?
I'm just not that convinced that Iowa suffers from a talent issue as it suffers from a failure to use talent issue.
