#18 Iowa at Pedo State

[judzeehawk]

This was a great game for Iowa, they played like the top team in the big 10 should, even on the road. They shot the ball very well. They were in control from start to finish, they controlled the paint, they forced a lot of turnovers while giving up very few. This definitely looks like a team that will win the championship.

Championship teams don't give up 21 point leads to an inferior team to hang on at the end!

 

[ClintonIAfan]

The pedos just got a few lucky banked desperation threes, Iowa was clearly in control from start to finish, and Iowa is definitely the best team in the big 10.

 

[PCHawk]

That was a terrible game! Hawks are in first place but play like an average team! Just when is this team going to start playing like a first place team! I would think by now Amanda would be able to make a lay up and come close to making a free throw! Hawks had a 21 point lead and pissed it away to a terrible team! This team needs to get their head out of their butt and start playing ball from the tip off to the end of the game! Next up is Michigan and you play against them like you did tonight it won't be much of a fun ride home! Wake up Hawks!

What in the world is this post? Damn, you're hard to please. Did Penn State ever even get it down to single digits? I wouldn't call that pissing away a lead.

 

[PCHawk]

The pedos just got a few lucky banked desperation threes, Iowa was clearly in control from start to finish, and Iowa is definitely the best team in the big 10.

If this is true that they really banked in 3s, it makes that post even more funny.

 

[CP87]

What in the world is this post? Damn, you're hard to please. Did Penn State ever even get it down to single digits? I wouldn't call that pissing away a lead.

They did, they got it down to 8. Doyle put Iowa up by 23 right at the start of the 4Q, and then Iowa did not score a point for over 7 minutes. The outcome was never in doubt, but things got really sloppy for awhile.

The problem is the team tends to thrive on adversity, but they cannot handle prosperity. When they are down, they scramble like Hell on defense, they throw bodies into people when a shot goes up, and they take care of the ball on offense. When things are going good, they get sloppy on all of those dimensions (giving up o-boards and coughing up dumb TOs have always been their bugaboos).

Doyle and Meyer can usually be counted on no matter what, but when Bluder tries to rest them, things just fall apart in a real troubling way. I guess it should be no surprise that freshmen and sophomores make dumb mistakes, but the drop-off is so severe when Doyle or Meyer sit that I can understand the angst.

I think what it really comes down to is fans see the ceiling of this team (currently #7 rpi, have been as high as #4), but they have not yet seen the team play at that ceiling for 40 minutes in a long time. They had 3 games in a row where they had deficits in the teens in the second half (all because of sloppy first half play), and they came back and won. Against MSU on Megan-Gustafson night, they get up 8 in the first 5 minutes, lose the lead with sloppy play in 2Q and 3Q (they played harder, but still had issues with o-boards and TOs), and then outscore MSU 28-9 in the 4Q. Iowa outscored opponents 94-51 in the fourth quarter over those 4 games.

Against PSU they blew their doors off for 3Q, and then they stunk the joint up in the 4th (mostly when they tried to lean on the youngsters).

They have been playing with fire lately, I think many just want to see them put it together for a whole game. Doyle has certainly been doing that, but the others need to come along.

 

[judzeehawk]

What in the world is this post? Damn, you're hard to please. Did Penn State ever even get it down to single digits? I wouldn't call that pissing away a lead.[/QUOT


I guess you didn't watch much of the game or you wouldn't of posted the way you did.

 

[judzeehawk]

They did, they got it down to 8. Doyle put Iowa up by 23 right at the start of the 4Q, and then Iowa did not score a point for over 7 minutes. The outcome was never in doubt, but things got really sloppy for awhile.

The problem is the team tends to thrive on adversity, but they cannot handle prosperity. When they are down, they scramble like Hell on defense, they throw bodies into people when a shot goes up, and they take care of the ball on offense. When things are going good, they get sloppy on all of those dimensions (giving up o-boards and coughing up dumb TOs have always been their bugaboos).

Doyle and Meyer can usually be counted on no matter what, but when Bluder tries to rest them, things just fall apart in a real troubling way. I guess it should be no surprise that freshmen and sophomores make dumb mistakes, but the drop-off is so severe when Doyle or Meyer sit that I can understand the angst.

I think what it really comes down to is fans see the ceiling of this team (currently #7 rpi, have been as high as #4), but they have not yet seen the team play at that ceiling for 40 minutes in a long time. They had 3 games in a row where they had deficits in the teens in the second half (all because of sloppy first half play), and they came back and won. Against MSU on Megan-Gustafson night, they get up 8 in the first 5 minutes, lose the lead with sloppy play in 2Q and 3Q (they played harder, but still had issues with o-boards and TOs), and then outscore MSU 28-9 in the 4Q. Iowa outscored opponents 94-51 in the fourth quarter over those 4 games.

Against PSU they blew their doors off for 3Q, and then they stunk the joint up in the 4th (mostly when they tried to lean on the youngsters).

They have been playing with fire lately, I think many just want to see them put it together for a whole game. Doyle has certainly been doing that, but the others need to come along.

Thank you for posting this. Spot on! I wish I could type what's in my head but it usually never comes out the way I want it to. Good post CP87.

 

[PCHawk]

They did, they got it down to 8. Doyle put Iowa up by 23 right at the start of the 4Q, and then Iowa did not score a point for over 7 minutes. The outcome was never in doubt, but things got really sloppy for awhile.

The problem is the team tends to thrive on adversity, but they cannot handle prosperity. When they are down, they scramble like Hell on defense, they throw bodies into people when a shot goes up, and they take care of the ball on offense. When things are going good, they get sloppy on all of those dimensions (giving up o-boards and coughing up dumb TOs have always been their bugaboos).

Doyle and Meyer can usually be counted on no matter what, but when Bluder tries to rest them, things just fall apart in a real troubling way. I guess it should be no surprise that freshmen and sophomores make dumb mistakes, but the drop-off is so severe when Doyle or Meyer sit that I can understand the angst.

I think what it really comes down to is fans see the ceiling of this team (currently #7 rpi, have been as high as #4), but they have not yet seen the team play at that ceiling for 40 minutes in a long time. They had 3 games in a row where they had deficits in the teens in the second half (all because of sloppy first half play), and they came back and won. Against MSU on Megan-Gustafson night, they get up 8 in the first 5 minutes, lose the lead with sloppy play in 2Q and 3Q (they played harder, but still had issues with o-boards and TOs), and then outscore MSU 28-9 in the 4Q. Iowa outscored opponents 94-51 in the fourth quarter over those 4 games.

Against PSU they blew their doors off for 3Q, and then they stunk the joint up in the 4th (mostly when they tried to lean on the youngsters).

They have been playing with fire lately, I think many just want to see them put it together for a whole game. Doyle has certainly been doing that, but the others need to come along.

All that is fine and I'm sure true. But when a team loses the national player of the year, is supposed to be an average team, looks like an average team/good team that has been really good at finishing games, yet somehow is in sole possession of 1st place, I'd say they are playing at their ceiling. That post was a classic example of never being able to please fans. If you are winning every game you play, it's still not good enough because you are not blowing them out. This team is doing really good and performing way above expectations. They have fought their way to 1st place half way through the schedule, but that's not good enough. Now they have to "play like the 1st place team" every game or some fans will say they are terrible (or played terrible). Thinking a team should play to their ceiling every game, or all 40 minutes of every game, is just stupidly high expectations. Can't you just be happy with playing close enough to your ceiling often enough to win?

 

[judzeehawk]

All that is fine and I'm sure true. But when a team loses the national player of the year, is supposed to be an average team, looks like an average team/good team that has been really good at finishing games, yet somehow is in sole possession of 1st place, I'd say they are playing at their ceiling. That post was a classic example of never being able to please fans. If you are winning every game you play, it's still not good enough because you are not blowing them out. This team is doing really good and performing way above expectations. They have fought their way to 1st place half way through the schedule, but that's not good enough. Now they have to "play like the 1st place team" every game or some fans will say they are terrible (or played terrible). Thinking a team should play to their ceiling every game, or all 40 minutes of every game, is just stupidly high expectations. Can't you just be happy with playing close enough to your ceiling often enough to win?

You are exaggerating things a bit. This team is capable of beating the inferior teams by a lot! MSU and PSU should of been wins by a large margin. Come selection day it means a lot if you take care of business and not just squeak by the bad teams. Just because we lost Megan doesn't mean that this years team doesn't have high caliber players because it does. Maybe you didn't have high expectations for this team but you probably didn't know the talent that is on this team. Yes in first place by a slim 1 game. Hawks let the B1G title slip through their fingers last year and hopefully that won't happen this year.

 

[PCHawk]

You are exaggerating things a bit. This team is capable of beating the inferior teams by a lot! MSU and PSU should of been wins by a large margin. Come selection day it means a lot if you take care of business and not just squeak by the bad teams. Just because we lost Megan doesn't mean that this years team doesn't have high caliber players because it does. Maybe you didn't have high expectations for this team but you probably didn't know the talent that is on this team. Yes in first place by a slim 1 game. Hawks let the B1G title slip through their fingers last year and hopefully that won't happen this year.

But there is a difference between being capable of blowing out a bad team and assuming it needs to happen every time or you're upset about it. I'm not trying to harp on you too much. It just surprises me to see posts like that after the season they are having.

 

[ClintonIAfan]