No comparison. HF didn't do nepotism. KF didn't have the scandals (we'll never know about the Rose Bowl fumbles). HF was always the same and could make the people he was challenging laugh. Just like Reagan making Mondale laugh about the age question.
I don’t remember any of this, how I remember it Hayden had a decent relationship with most of the media and if he did get salty it was for good reason. What we have here is completely different, we have an Iowa team that is beyond bad on offense and the person responsible is the coaches son. A HC can get away with some snark when the program is winning but the leash tightens when the program turns to dogshit and is a joke in the National media. I don’t remember Hayden facing the same level of criticisms.
To be clear I'm not in favor of getting rid of Kirk for reasons I stated above. I just think his kid needs to go.
I was right near that play where Petras threw it into the ground. He wasn't nervous at all. He did a Jon Lester pickoff move.
I know all of that... and I knew you guys would eat me up on it. Which is what I was hoping for. On paper is all that matters. You're opinion or idea of what you think it is, is what doesn't matter. The actual arrangement DOES matter. Ya get that right too? Like, Kirk couldn't say he has any power there or then there would be a problem. Right or wrong, that question needs to be pointed at his direct superior, which in this case is NOT Kirk Ferentz. I'll never argue that it's a dumb way to have them have it set up.
Me too - and frankly, I don't think that will solve much. He could put a card board cut out of the "Most Interesting Man" in the world from the Dos Equis commercial on the sidelines and and call that the "Iowa OC"... that doesn't change our line play or a generational poor QB in Spencer Petras. it's the most over rated position in the program.
Really? Listen to 3 minutes of this tirade on the Media, and you'll say, oh, what Kirk said was fairly tame.
I didn’t hear anything that was disrespectful to the writer that put down his profession. Cripes he had everyone laughing.
Ironically that guy was doing his job a million times better than either of the Ferentz' this year!!
He said that people are idiots and people who read what some clueless reporter wrote are garbage... like he said that in the first minute of the presser. Show me where Kirk said anything like that?
Dude, let it go. Hayden was the type he can call someone an idiot and they all laugh. KF doesn’t have that same personality.
I am not holding on to anything.... I'm stating that Hayden Fry ripped on the media every random weekday presser he had in the 80's. I said that this was straight out of Hayden's playbook. It is. I didn't say that Hayden wasn't funnier and a better stand up comedian than Kirk, I said, this is straight out of Hayden's playbook vs the media. It is.
That's not true. But...hot takes are what internet forums are made for.
So, Hlas says Fry had at least one blow out a year with the media and a lot of people pointed at the firestorms but deep down he was a great guy that they all loved. Do you think he'd say something similar about Kirk? I think he would.
He did when things weren't going well. It's amazing how time can make everyone just forget. Kirk will get the same treatment 20 years after he's gone, I don't know much, but I know that.
The comparison with Fry just isn't realistic. KF doesn't do blowouts with the media. He has abusive control.
You aren't realistic, I just posted a video where Fry went on a media tirade. What he said is way more over the top then what Kirk said. It's not only realistic, it's got video fucking evidence.
