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They are showing up and their wrath is apparent! Oh, and you got the dreaded YAWN reply!

Kind of like your old car. Heater works great, good gas milage, gets you to and from work/school. Then you see that new shiny thing in the car lot........................

This is true, but Kirks bootlickers will argue the fact.

They didn't look all that engaged in the second half at Carver either.

Well BigD, no defense to be found. Hawks were abused around the rim, then from the arc. The only fun thing to watch was Fran getting a red face, then getting tossed.

Well Huck, after reading so many of your post, it seems to be you are perfectly happy with a 500 record in BB and FB. You either attack other posters who want better or give them a "yawn". You are very happy with a good season, but Kirk and Fran have to be the head coaches. Kirk has done a great...

He's a super recruiter!!! Fred #1 when he was there. Dang good coach also.

I guess I just hate seeing the Hawks getting embarrassed on the court. The lack of talent is for all to see.

Is it Frans scheme? Total whiff in recruiting? Even the senior transfer cannot seem to defend very will. Mulvey is redshirting but doesn't anything special. Athletes needed more than three point shooters it seems.

I went to SB NATION and next to nobody there cares much about the mens BB team. I mostly liked Fran but his tenure needs to end. Carver seems to be one third to half full for most games. That said, when CC leaves, the women will not draw much fan support either.

Did anyone notice Rutgers has signed two top five BB recruits????

Andy changed with the times, Kirk has not. I know you don't agree and thats ok. To you Kirk can do no wrong ever! Kirk would not amount to a pimple on Andys' a$$!

Most coaches go downhill pretty fast when old age kicks in. Jo Pa, Bobby Bowden, Bear Bryant, Hayden Fry, to name a few. Is Kirk going to stick around for awhile yet??? The same will probably happen to him also. Young kids do not always want to play for an old coach. It has happened before.

Even those who support him without reservation have dot admit his offensive philosophy doesn't work in this day and age. The proof is in the pudding as they say.

Two things can be true here: He is a HOF coach. He is a dinosaur.

I believe you answered your own question.

Who has Kirk hired on offense is any good? I can not think of anyone who should be retained. They richly deserve their horrid ranking! Yes, this sh!t show falls totally on the HEAD COACH!

Kirk is totally to blame for this non-existent offense. He seems to be locked in the sixties. Good for rock and roll, not so much for football. The offensive line coach needs to be shown the door also.

It appeared that the entire upper level of Carver was empty. Is that right?

I'm not so sure.....Hill throws somewhere in the vicinity of his receiver, (over his head, behind, too far in front), and can be intercepted. Christensen buried his into the ground!!!