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everybody has meetings with other staffs frequently if not yearly. The changes this year have been a fundamental shift in KF philosophy that is not comparable to anything we've seen before. The entire rest of the football world tries to score at the end of halfs. Do you think he just...

Yes I've read them and I'm positive no one is is claiming message boards are the reason for anything. Not sure where you're getting that. Saying KF felt pressure from fans is not even close to saying he reads message boards.

Its not an either or scenario though, both can be true. But to think loss of revenue played no part just lacks common sense.

Honestly you would have to be a complete fool to think the two things occurred independently of each other.

Dean, it was declining revenue that put the heat on KFs job that prompted him to reevaluate his process. If you don't believe that you're just fooling yourself. Sure he could have dug in his heels if he really wanted with out much financial risk because his contract is guaranteed but I...

Ws & Ls are directly related to the income the program generates. So sayings they are somehow seperate issues is nonsense. If the money hadn't taken a dip there would be no pressure on KF. There were plenty of people vehemently defending 7-5 seasons with the be happy what you have...

its amazing that you think anyone thinks this because no one thinks this. By the end of last year the administration and the staff were well aware of what the fan base was thinking. And no one thinks it was because of message boards.

To act like the fans voicing their displeasure had nothing to do with KF eventually making the changes that those same fans had been calling for for years is laughable. Yes people wanted him gone, because no one in their right mind thought he would ever change his play not to lose philosophy...

Youve already failed at this. Stop whining.

This D isn't bad but they have a long way to go to be compared with those early 2000s groups. King and Ott would fit in though.

Ill always remember Matt Roth just destroying Purdues punter who had no idea it was coming after a block. You'd probably get suspended for something like that now.

That's just idiotic. And Saban? That's just a really weird lie. As for the rest, that line of thinking doesn't make sense. That would disqualify %95 of the media from having an opinion about coaches. It's not that hard to tell if someone is succeeding at their job. The results are what they...

You do realize that the whole point of cutting off financial support was to make a point things needed to change? and what happened. Does this start somehow erase the last 5 years of poor performance to you? yeasterday was the first win of any significance in five years. Five years! Were...

A fake southern accent also helps.

Probably true. I am just glad that he is finally attempting to score at the end of halfs.

The thing is normally you lose more than 5 seconds there trying to get a play in and everyone lined up, we got that off really fast and cleanly so it didn't end up hurting. But almost everyone spikes it there because the risk isn't worth saving a down.

i do understand that the O has an advantage there and that probably did work in our favor, but man you're playing with fire there not stopping the clock.

Looking at something like this in hindsight isn't the right way to do it. Like I said , it's very simple protecting the clock is always the number one priority. In this situation, as it turned out it may not have made a big difference but as a rule you save time and sacrifice the down.

Number of plays is not the issue. You can gain any number of yards in any number of plays. You're over thinking it. Its as simple as this you always protect the clock when possible, or at least thats conventional wisdom. It worked out but it was not the ideal way to get there.

I've never understood this idea. Isnt the point of a message board to disscus/debate sports? It's all pointless.