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Very few players are great at both ends of the floor. Those guys end up being NBA draft picks. You do realize that right? Every player has weaknesses. You're just making a fool of yourself over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and...

The Hawks are better with a healthy Jok than they are without him. They aren't better with an ailing Jok. Those last 3 games he played they looked awful. Primarily because he wasn't himself, but they still tried to run the offense through him and it was a disaster. These last couple of games...

Ay yi yi 56... Lol this is great. I love it! I love it! I love it! He has disappeared. #Shocker

Martin will be a good player for Michigan. I don't have any doubt about that, but I really like the WRs the Hawks ended up with. I think Brandon Smith could be better than Martin. Smith-Marsette topped it off with a late commit so that helps. Max Cooper looks like he has great hands. The...

You make some solid points. I think people root for JBo, speaking for myself anyways, partly because of all the scrutiny that was involved with Fran offering him. So many people freaked out about it, and he's come in and outplayed everyone's expectations. He has absolutely proven that he...

He's always MIA for a bit after the Hawks win and the Clones lose. Especially when his favorite boy Bohannon plays so well. Takes him a little bit to recover.

Future is bright with these guys. Looking forward to the ride.

Don't know and don't care.

Outstanding game by JB tonight. So far he is 5/7 from 3, 17 pts, and 4 assists with no turnovers. Can't ask for much more from a true freshman PG. Throw some more crow on the ol' grill for 56.

Right, but you acknowledged that he's gonna be a 4 year starter and probably put up huge numbers. Which means he's a really good player for the Hawks. I haven't seen a single person claim that he's a good defender. It is a weak point in his game, but he adds so much else to the team that it is...

Clones got whooped by a mediocre Vanderbilt team and the young Hawks battled to a dominant victory without their best player. Rough weekend for you and your little pea brain. Say what you want but you aren't fooling anyone.

Part of it was the routes, but I also think part of it was the decision making that Greg Davis' system required the WR's to progress through. It was complicated. It was a constant uphill battle. Clearly the Hawks have struggled finding burners at WR who can get open simply from their speed and...

So why is the thread idiotic? There are people in the thread that are being idiotic... yes. That's why the thread was created tho. Primarily for one particular hater who refuses to admit he's wrong about pretty much everything. He's just not man enough to eat the crow he's being served.

OSU played like they thought they could sleep walk through this game and still get a win. Iowa made them pay for not being ready. Nice bounce back game for these young guys. They needed a game like this to restablish their confidence. Especially without Jok playing. That has to make them feel...

This is exactly what I was going to say. Huge difference between the KOK and Greg Davis offense. I'm assuming there will be a similar difference between the BF and GD offense. The short passing routes were the staple of the GD offense. That wasn't a Ferentz thing. Do some research IndianaHawk...

Good for him. Young man did everything he could for the Hawks. Can't hate on him whatsoever for wanting to find a place where he can get on the field. He's more than put in his time, and he deserve it. It stinks for the Hawks cuz they could have used a little depth there next year, but it...

Rob - How do you know where the coaches are going to be? Inside source? Just curious.

This is exactly how I feel. Pretty sad to see how some posters appear to be hanging on the ledge over the decision a bunch of 18 year old kids are making. This star system is so ridiculous. I prefer to wait and see how recruits actually end up once they reach campus rather than throwing them out...

Great posts Deann. Basically what this says is John Belein's comment after the Iowa game was spot on. Jordan is playing as well as any other freshman guard in the country. Those stats prove it. But, but, his PER! Nothing else for 56 to hold onto. He has officially fallen off the cliff.

Tim Beckman and Todd Lickliter were not young coaches.