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I think this is a valid point. However, we played everybody in the conference twice... even the "good" teams. Heck, we played Kansas three times. Last year you played all of the "bad" teams twice and the "good" ones only once on your conference schedule. This is a chicken and egg argument...

I third this

There is no way that could happen. Fred keeps his rolodex with him at all times. When he leaves the basketball complex it's in a locked briefcase handcuffed to his wrist.

No need to link articles. I agree that Fred talked them into staying. Where we differ is in the fact that you think talking a guy into staying is the same as recruiting a guy to a school initially. It's not... especially considering the circumstances. As I said earlier, Fred took over on...

Meat... I got your message and replied. Lemme know if you got it. Thanks

Haha... yes I'm a 'Clone. Send me a pm and i'll try to reply. Let me know if you get it? Cool?

I've received private messages and replied, but my "sent" box is still empty. I've also initiated private messages on my own that didn't go through. My browser is Chrome. Am I missing something? Thanks

I agree with a lot of what you said above. It's one thing to recruit over guys already on the roster, but it's different to recruit over a guy who hasn't even practiced with the team yet (Morris). The bolded part above is a bit much though. Hoiberg has had two guys that he actively...

Actually, he's a pretty good troll. You guys keep responding to him. Wish you wouldn't... Does this board have an ignore feature?

Do you think Cydkar and I are trolling ? I remember you over there and don't recall anything ban-worthy you did. Maybe email a mod and ask for specifics? I don't know. What i want to know is which one of you guys is allfourcy on CyFan. That dude made it almost 200 posts before being outed...

I think your point number two is a really good one. That concerns me as well to some degree. Monte Morris was asked by Travis Hines of the Ames Tribune after a CCL game recently how he felt about Hoiberg bringing Kane in (to play point). I'm paraphrasing, but Morris said he was a little...

Yes... my bad. He was 122. Sorry about that. I was not trying to short change you guys. Honestly. He isn't mentioned much in the argument threads here and I forgot about him. I was just trying to put an end to the Fred isn't building a "long term" program commentary.

Yep... that is perfectly logical. However... look at the freaking stats our seniors put up in that game... holy hell. The Iowa D played great. No dispute there at all. However, from an ISU perspective, no matter who we roll out there in December it can't be worse. Plus it's at Hilton. I...

Here is some food for thought.... Iowa State has the same amount of top 150 freshmen and sophomores on the roster than Iowa does. I chose 150 because Uthoff was 149 out of high school. Gave them a bit of a boost if you will. Niang 69 SDW 125 Morris 96 Thomas 54 Them.... Woody 50 Gesell...

You agree with LawVHawk, so let me ask you... His argument, which you agree with, is very frustrating for me to try to understand. What exactly is the problem with Hoiberg's strategy as you see it and what do you think will happen because of it? I guess I am asking... what is the worst case...

I agree with you except for your first sentence... :p ISU would have won at least 3 more games last year (not the Iowa game) had we actually played some clutch defense at the end when we had the lead. Kansas twice and at Oklahoma State.

Seriously?

This is absolutely great. You do realize that the argument you laid out above is the EXACT SAME ONE I-State fans were using last year don't you? What happened? Our team of 5th year seniors went to Carver and lost to a bunch of talented youngsters. You guys were going to be too...

Put me in the camp of thinking Iowa will be pretty good next year. That said, i still think ISU wins the game in Hilton. We're used to hearing the "they'll suck because they lose so and so next year". It's gone from Diante Garrett after Hoiberg's first year, to Royce White, Chris Allen, and...