Cambell's rpi is not the thing dragging

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herbyhawk

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Iowa RPI down it was the 1st three teams that have done the damage, none of hem are above 330 in the standings, Cambell is at 191, only 52 spots below Iowa at 139, they have not updated the win over Wisconcin, in fact they are projecting losses to Wiscy, Illinois, Nebraska and a win over NW.
Pomeroy has Iowa at 91
 


herbyhawk said:
Iowa RPI down it was the 1st three teams that have done the damage, none of hem are above 330 in the standings, Cambell is at 191, only 52 spots below Iowa at 139, they have not updated the win over Wisconcin, in fact they are projecting losses to Wiscy, Illinois, Nebraska and a win over NW.
Pomeroy has Iowa at 91
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Campbell
Northern Illinois
North Carolina A & T
Chicago St


Just brutal teams. Not sure how Brown and Central Arkansas look but I assume not good at all.

I like how people tried to attack others who said Iowa just played a very bad pre-season schedule.

Herby you tried to tell us how good Campbell was. They are bad.
 


just looked at todays RPI, and it showed Iowa at 139 and Cambell at 191, my point is that teams with a RPI over 330 hurt far more than a 191 does, I will go back and find the the rankings of the others in the 300's, i am also going to try and find Iowa's season ending RPI for last year as another point of reference. to show improvement
 






CSU 332
NCA&T 282
NIU 335
IPFW 285
Brown 311
Central Arkansas 313

Cambell 191, i think the wins over the other 5 make a bigger impact, the quality of the opposition affects it no matter who wins or loses
4 teams with a RPI over 300 did a lot more damage
next year Fran says he will up grade the OOC opponents, even Clemson is equal to Iowa's at this time at 147, and Iowa's SOS is 79th before the Wiscy's game
 


herbyhawk said:
CSU 332
NCA&T 282
NIU 335
IPFW 285
Brown 311
Central Arkansas 313

Cambell 191, i think the wins over the other 5 make a bigger impact, the quality of the opposition affects it no matter who wins or loses
4 teams with a RPI over 300 did a lot more damage
next year Fran says he will up grade the OOC opponents, even Clemson is equal to Iowa's at this time at 147, and Iowa's SOS is 79th before the Wiscy's game
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1 loss to a team with an RPI of 191 at home makes a much bigger negative impact than the 5 wins. Sure the quality of opponent doesnt help but losses are much more damaging and it isnt close.

Keep sleuthing herb
 






busabus114 said:
1 loss to a team with an RPI of 191 at home makes a much bigger negative impact than the 5 wins. Sure the quality of opponent doesnt help but losses are much more damaging and it isnt close.

Keep sleuthing herb
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Of the 4 bad loses 3 have been at home. That hurts big time.
 


busabus114 said:
1 loss to a team with an RPI of 191 at home makes a much bigger negative impact than the 5 wins. Sure the quality of opponent doesnt help but losses are much more damaging and it isnt close.

Keep sleuthing herb
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Actually playing and beating a DII team would be better than those 5 wins because they would not count for or against you. Playing someone with an RPI in the 300's does no good unless you need the win to be at .500.
 




busabus114 said:
1 loss to a team with an RPI of 191 at home makes a much bigger negative impact than the 5 wins. Sure the quality of opponent doesnt help but losses are much more damaging and it isnt close.

Keep sleuthing herb
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Actually, Iowa's loss to Campbell doesn't hurt anymore than the loss to O$U. Iowa was awarded 1.4 losses for both games. What is really killing Iowa is the opponents' adjusted winning percentage. It makes up 50-percent of the RPI.
 


ColumbusHawk said:
Actually, Iowa's loss to Campbell doesn't hurt anymore than the loss to O$U. Iowa was awarded 1.4 losses for both games. What is really killing Iowa is the opponents' adjusted winning percentage. It makes up 50-percent of the RPI.
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So what is the actual RPI detriment for beating a 300 rpi team vs losing to Campbell?
 


Guys, we're 2 games above .500. Our overall talent is below ncaa tournament standards. Can we just enjoy the effort and look forward to the nit and then next year. This rpi and bubble talk is really reaching. We're heading in the right direction but I'm guessing we lose 2 out of the next 3. We could lose all 3. I think next year we hit the bubble with full force. I'm enjoying watching gatens finally playing the way we thought he could but the rest of the team needs a lot of help. A lot of that comes next year.
 


ColumbusHawk said:
Actually, Iowa's loss to Campbell doesn't hurt anymore than the loss to O$U. Iowa was awarded 1.4 losses for both games. What is really killing Iowa is the opponents' adjusted winning percentage. It makes up 50-percent of the RPI.
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This is one of the reasons why RPI sucks.
 


busabus114 said:
So what is the actual RPI detriment for beating a 300 rpi team vs losing to Campbell?
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Wins are always better than losses. After last weekend's games, Campbell's adjusted winning percentage was .585. So that does help Iowa a little bit.

Iowa got .6 wins for the victory over Chicago State. So the win does help Iowa's adjusted winning percentage. However, Chicago State's adjusted winning percentage is .113.

What really is the killer is the five home losses. Those five losses equate to an adjusted seven losses. After the victory over Wisconsin, Iowa's adjusted winning percentage is still below five-hundred at .465. The Hawks' adjusted record is 10.6-12.2.

The fallacy is that many people think Iowa fans should root for Wisconsin over Ohio State this weekend because Iowa beat Wisconsin twice & lost to the Bucks. That is incorrect. You want the Badgers to win because their winning percentage counts twice in determing opponents winning percentage.
 


droidhawk said:
Guys, we're 2 games above .500. Our overall talent is below ncaa tournament standards. Can we just enjoy the effort and look forward to the nit and then next year. This rpi and bubble talk is really reaching. We're heading in the right direction but I'm guessing we lose 2 out of the next 3. We could lose all 3. I think next year we hit the bubble with full force. I'm enjoying watching gatens finally playing the way we thought he could but the rest of the team needs a lot of help. A lot of that comes next year.
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That's the rub. This team actually has NCAA tournament talent. Have you seen the "bubble teams" play????
The Iowa team that beat UW and IU this week would cream Campbell but we can't go back and get that game. It's still a young and unpredictable squad but everyone has to agree that we're a totally different team now.
FWIW it's idiotic to think we'd lose all three at this point. Much more likely to win all three.
 


even this Iowa team would cream that Cambell team, my guess if they would have started out the way they are finishing about the only 2 losses would be ISU and Creighton although both would be closer,
that's the beauty of youth the more they play the better they get, this will be true of next years class. at the start of the season the freshmen will have their ups and downs but at the end the will have more ups than downs.
the best thing is they will have 3 jr's capable of leading them and better quality depth
 


ColumbusHawk said:
Wins are always better than losses. After last weekend's games, Campbell's adjusted winning percentage was .585. So that does help Iowa a little bit.

Iowa got .6 wins for the victory over Chicago State. So the win does help Iowa's adjusted winning percentage. However, Chicago State's adjusted winning percentage is .113.

What really is the killer is the five home losses. Those five losses equate to an adjusted seven losses. After the victory over Wisconsin, Iowa's adjusted winning percentage is still below five-hundred at .465. The Hawks' adjusted record is 10.6-12.2.

The fallacy is that many people think Iowa fans should root for Wisconsin over Ohio State this weekend because Iowa beat Wisconsin twice & lost to the Bucks. That is incorrect. You want the Badgers to win because their winning percentage counts twice in determing opponents winning percentage.
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Oh, now I understand (rolls eyes). Thanks for the explanation but it just confirms the RPI is worthless! :)
 


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