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Or did someone at UVA get wind of his sick habit and curtail the interview?
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Or did someone at UVA get wind of his sick habit and curtail the interview?
Enginerd
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Not sure about that, I hear it on the score and linked it.
74Hunter
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He should be charged with "one count of failure to report abuse allegations."
Sickening. Pathetic. Disgusting. Without a doubt, the worst scandal that I can remember in Div. 1 football.
hawkfan340
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I just can't understand how to reconcile the following:
a. JoePa did nothing morally wrong.
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b. Nothing came about from the March 2002 incident until a separate investigation began in 2008.
Seriously, JoePa needs to go. Like today. He shouldn't coach another game.
Or is there something I'm missing?
a. JoePa did nothing morally wrong.
-and-
b. Nothing came about from the March 2002 incident until a separate investigation began in 2008.
Seriously, JoePa needs to go. Like today. He shouldn't coach another game.
Or is there something I'm missing?
74Hunter
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Agreed.
hawkfan340
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I believe under Pennsylvania law he wasn't required to do so. So legally, I believe he's okay. It's morally, that I think he needs to step down.
@ ssckelley.....my thoughts exactly!
some slick lawyer needs to be putting together a MULTI MILLION dollar class action lawsuit! any one who was a victim gets a piece of that awarded. i know that doesnt erase what happned to them, but will stick it financially to the U for doing nothing and will hopefully bring more victims out for an even more (if it can get worse) damning case!
some slick lawyer needs to be putting together a MULTI MILLION dollar class action lawsuit! any one who was a victim gets a piece of that awarded. i know that doesnt erase what happned to them, but will stick it financially to the U for doing nothing and will hopefully bring more victims out for an even more (if it can get worse) damning case!
racerhawk
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No kidding. There were opportunities like the example you noted above, to call the police. What kind of an immoral jerk wouldn't call the police? I would like to think that some people out there would just be good citizens and report a rape of a child. Or maybe physically intervene and save the child from it? Seriously
ssckelley
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You mean to tell me that it is legal in the State of Pennsylvania to have knowledge of one of your volunteer coaches sodomizing a 10 year old boy and not report it?
latrans
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I agree with you on the tacit approval - I'm guessing that pretty much EVERYONE there knew WTF was going on. Coaches, janitors, etc walked in on this guy in the act. Everyone knew and they did nothing.
hawkfan340
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I don't really know the laws of the state. JoePa wasn't an eyewitness. I would guess that if you're an eyewitness of a crime, any crime, you would need to report it.
In this case, JoePa only heard it from the guy who saw it, so I'm not really sure the law requires him to report it. Like I said, I honestly don't know the ins and outs of the law there though.
racerhawk
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I run a mental health unit in a hospital, and have worked on inpatient psych units for 20 years. I completely agree. Many male victims never come forward, or are extremely selective about the abuse.
ssckelley
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No kidding. There were opportunities like the example you noted above, to call the police. What kind of an immoral jerk wouldn't call the police? I would like to think that some people out there would just be good citizens and report a rape of a child. Or maybe physically intervene and save the child from it? Seriously
I agree! FWIW the man is now in a nursing home suffering from dementia (sp?). So who knows?
I have no idea how this is even possible. I am a Community College instructor, and I do some volunteering in the community with kids. In this day and age, you simply do not even do these activities without multuiple adults. All it takes is a simple accusation, and my career would be over. How the hell can there be known instances of abuse and the guy still be around the campus? Theres has to be more to the story here. Obviously more people knew about Sandusky's odd behavior. I don't care if it is a GA and even if it was consentiual between OLD PErv and the victim, it is still a crime, in a public place none the less with witnesses, and Joe Pa knew. There is simply no explaining the lack of follow through that may have caused tens if not hudreds more victims. Disturbing does not even touch this one. If I have ever seen a "lack of institutional oversite" in a program this is it. I say give them the death penalty of college football. There is no way the NCAA can look the other way on this one. This is a thouasnd times more wrong than a player taking money for selling a jersey that they own. If true Joe Pa is a fraud and has tainted PSU forever.
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Check out this story from 2005.
PSU trio on 'team suspension' - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review
Less than a week after Joe Paterno had publicly scolded several players who continue to pay the price for a winter incident in which arrows were shot into an on-campus apartment wall, Penn State acknowledged Thursday that three more players are on what is termed "team probation" for making prank telephone calls.
The three are Dan Connor, a sophomore projected to start at outside linebacker, and reserves Jim Kanuch, a junior former defensive back switched to receiver this spring, and Nolan McCready, a junior safety.
The three reportedly made prank phone calls earlier this year, but no police charges are pending after they apologized to the recipient of the calls.
"They are on team probation right now," said Jeff Nelson, of the Penn State sports information staff. "Coach (Paterno) has to make a determination what exactly that will be; what that will entail.
"This just came to light within the last couple of days. We're still trying to gather information. I would think he will make a decision soon after that."
Paterno has been dogged by indiscretions by his players over the past several years, and had told those involved in the arrow-shooting incident earlier this year that they were at a zero-tolerance point. The three involved in this phone incident have not been identified previously as discipline problems. Kanuch is the nephew of defensive coordinator Tom Bradley.
A source close to the team said the target of the prank calls was a former assistant football coach.
"I can't speak to that," Nelson said.
Similarly, Nelson said he could not confirm whether the trio has been banned from practice because he did not attend the Wednesday or Thursday sessions.
Prank phone calls to a former coach...hmmm, I wonder what they knew (or had heard) and why they pranked the former coach??
PSU trio on 'team suspension' - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review
Less than a week after Joe Paterno had publicly scolded several players who continue to pay the price for a winter incident in which arrows were shot into an on-campus apartment wall, Penn State acknowledged Thursday that three more players are on what is termed "team probation" for making prank telephone calls.
The three are Dan Connor, a sophomore projected to start at outside linebacker, and reserves Jim Kanuch, a junior former defensive back switched to receiver this spring, and Nolan McCready, a junior safety.
The three reportedly made prank phone calls earlier this year, but no police charges are pending after they apologized to the recipient of the calls.
"They are on team probation right now," said Jeff Nelson, of the Penn State sports information staff. "Coach (Paterno) has to make a determination what exactly that will be; what that will entail.
"This just came to light within the last couple of days. We're still trying to gather information. I would think he will make a decision soon after that."
Paterno has been dogged by indiscretions by his players over the past several years, and had told those involved in the arrow-shooting incident earlier this year that they were at a zero-tolerance point. The three involved in this phone incident have not been identified previously as discipline problems. Kanuch is the nephew of defensive coordinator Tom Bradley.
A source close to the team said the target of the prank calls was a former assistant football coach.
"I can't speak to that," Nelson said.
Similarly, Nelson said he could not confirm whether the trio has been banned from practice because he did not attend the Wednesday or Thursday sessions.
Prank phone calls to a former coach...hmmm, I wonder what they knew (or had heard) and why they pranked the former coach??
BLKNGOLD48
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This is only the tip of the iceberg as more info is going to keep coming out. Things are going to get really ugly in State College. Good find Vintage...
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Here is the home page of "The Second Mile" website.
The Second Mile -- Providing Children with Help and Hope
I suspect this place is doomed too, unless they change their name right away. The stench that this foul pervert sandusky left on pretty much everyone with whom he had contact is head spinning. What a totally evil individual.
The Second Mile -- Providing Children with Help and Hope
I suspect this place is doomed too, unless they change their name right away. The stench that this foul pervert sandusky left on pretty much everyone with whom he had contact is head spinning. What a totally evil individual.
HawkeyeShane
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How in the hell does something this sick and disgusting just get swept under the rug? Did all of these dumbshits think it would all just go away?
FalseMirage
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They were counting on it.
SCHawkeye
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Posted this in the other thread, but I think it's applicable here.
I've read a lot about Victims 1 and 2. Victim 4 shocks me. The Grand Jury findings show Victim 4 was listed as a member of Sandusky's family party at the 1998 Outback and 1999 Alamo Bowls. It begs the question, was he asked whether any contact occurred during these trips? I'm assuming if he was a member of the coaches' party it would have been paid for by the university, yes?
I've read a lot about Victims 1 and 2. Victim 4 shocks me. The Grand Jury findings show Victim 4 was listed as a member of Sandusky's family party at the 1998 Outback and 1999 Alamo Bowls. It begs the question, was he asked whether any contact occurred during these trips? I'm assuming if he was a member of the coaches' party it would have been paid for by the university, yes?
