Bowl game

[thejumper5]

1) No way in hell a 2 loss Big Ten team gets an at large bid to a BCS bowl.

2) Purdue or NW don't have to win six games to have 8 bowl eligible teams:
Illinois currently with 6 wins
OSU currently have 5 wins with Indiana this week so they will have 6 wins
PSU
Wisc
Neb
MSU
Mich
Iowa

That is 8 teams right there. Plus if Purdue beats Iowa there is a very good chance they end up with 6 wins because they have 4 right now with Iowa and Indiana to close the season.

So with only one of the above 8 making a BCS game that leaves 7 teams at 6-6 or better for these 7 bowls:
Cap One
Outback
Gator
Insight
Meineke Car Care
TicketCity
Little Ceaser's

Right. I was wrong. At first I thought I just misspoke but now I see that I wasn't thinking clearly. My thought process was, "Indy, NW, Purdue, and MN won't be bowl eligible. That's four teams. That leaves 7 more." Yeah, my thinking was antiquated.

But I still think the Big Ten gets two BCS teams. Remember, the BCS is about money more than it's about competition. If the Big Ten has two teams that are eligible, that team would be more appealing than Oklahoma State, Oregon, Stanford, Boise State, the Big East Champ, or the ACC runner-up. Unless there are 14 teams ahead of the Big Ten's #2 team, the conference has a lock on 2 BCS spots. The one caveat I will add is that if Stanford plays for the championship, I imagine the Pac-12 would fill the Rose Bowl's spot; however, that still leaves the Big Ten in a position of power over the Big XII, Big East, and ACC for the spot that's up for grabs.

 

[thejumper5]

If I had to put money on it right now, I would bet that Penn State beats Ohio State, Nebraska beats Penn State, Wisconsin beats Penn State, Wisconsin beats Nebraska in the BTCG (putting Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl), Stanford runs the table, OU beats OkSt, and this is the BCS:

NCG: SEC1 vs. Stanford
Sugar: SEC2 vs. Boise State/WV
Rose: Wisconsin vs. Oregon
Fiesta: Oklahoma vs. Nebraska
Orange: ACC vs. Boise State/WV

If LSU beats Alabama, then WV will be in the Sugar Bowl. If 'Bama beats LSU, then BSU will be in the Sugar Bowl (to avoid a rematch).

 

[Cover3]

My bowl prediction is that anybody predicting bowls right now is bound to be WAY off. Nature of the game.

 

[ssckelley]

It is highly unlikely the Big Ten gets 2 teams into the BCS this year, nor do they deserve it. It will be another ugly bowl season for the Big Ten if they get 2 teams into the BCS and everyone else moves up. Either the Pac12 or the Big12 will get 2 teams into the BCS over the Big Ten. I cannot see the BCS bowls passing up a 2 loss Oregon or a 1 loss Stanford with the top college player in Luck. There is an outside chance a 2nd Big Ten school with 2 losses could get selected over a 1 loss Oklahoma State. The only other scenario would be if Boise State got upset.

 

[thejumper5]

I guess I'm the only person that thinks it's highly likely that the Big Ten gets two BCS spots. I'll make sure I bump this thread on December 4. Hopefully I'm not eating crow when I do that.

I just can't see a BCS bowl passing up Penn State, Nebraska, Michigan, or Wisconsin (I think at least one of those schools will be in the top-14 and not be conference champs) in favor of schools like Stanford, Oregon, or Oklahoma State.

 

[ssckelley]

Jumper, normally I would agree with you but Oregon has made quite a name for themselves and who would pass up Stanford with the top QB in football? But you might be right about Oklahoma State, I could see a 2 loss Big Ten team get a bid over OSU. But if OSU beats Oklahoma then I think a 2 loss Oklahoma would get a bid over a 2 loss Big Ten team.

 

[thejumper5]

Jumper, normally I would agree with you but Oregon has made quite a name for themselves and who would pass up Stanford with the top QB in football? But you might be right about Oklahoma State, I could see a 2 loss Big Ten team get a bid over OSU. But if OSU beats Oklahoma then I think a 2 loss Oklahoma would get a bid over a 2 loss Big Ten team.

My counter is that if OSU beats OU, then this is the BCS selection order (assuming SEC winner is #1 and OSU is #2 for the national title game):

Sugar, Fiesta, Fiesta, Sugar, Orange

The Sugar would surely pick the SEC's runner-up leaving the Fiesta with the ability to pick Oklahoma with their next pick. If Nebraska is eligible and not the conference champ, even if they are 10-3, I think the Fiesta would jump at an OU-Nebraska game ahead of Boise State, Oregon/Stanford, or West Virginia.

 

[TylerSash]

My counter is that if OSU beats OU, then this is the BCS selection order (assuming SEC winner is #1 and OSU is #2 for the national title game):

Sugar, Fiesta, Fiesta, Sugar, Orange

The Sugar would surely pick the SEC's runner-up leaving the Fiesta with the ability to pick Oklahoma with their next pick. If Nebraska is eligible and not the conference champ, even if they are 10-3, I think the Fiesta would jump at an OU-Nebraska game ahead of Boise State, Oregon/Stanford, or West Virginia.

Who would care about OU-Nub? They have played a million times, several in recent years, including last year.

It does not have quite the cache you think it might.

 

[vigorousKnit]

If I had to put money on it right now, I would bet that Penn State beats Ohio State, Nebraska beats Penn State, Wisconsin beats Penn State, Wisconsin beats Nebraska in the BTCG (putting Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl), Stanford runs the table, OU beats OkSt, and this is the BCS:

NCG: SEC1 vs. Stanford
Sugar: SEC2 vs. Boise State/WV
Rose: Wisconsin vs. Oregon
Fiesta: Oklahoma vs. Nebraska
Orange: ACC vs. Boise State/WV

If LSU beats Alabama, then WV will be in the Sugar Bowl. If 'Bama beats LSU, then BSU will be in the Sugar Bowl (to avoid a rematch).

only 1 of neb/wisky are going to the BCS. big ten isnt getting an at large this year. the league is way too weak and there is hardly one elite team, let alone two

 

[vigorousKnit]

Who would care about OU-Nub? They have played a million times, several in recent years, including last year.

It does not have quite the cache you think it might.

the media eats up "historical matchups" like that. not to mention they both have two of the larger fanbases in college football