DuffMan
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TM, I like you, I respect you, but that might be the dumbest ******* thing you've ever said.
Glenn Mason Territory
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TM, I like you, I respect you, but that might be the dumbest ******* thing you've ever said.
hawkfan8691
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So you expect a minimum of 5-3 every year, with other seasons being 8-0, 7-1, and 6-2? How many programs go a minimum of 5-3 every year? I'm glad you, and many others on this board aren't in a position to set those expectations on the coaches. At least now I see why this board goes into total meltdown mode every time we lose 1 game. Wow
Yes, but is this the argument you're seeing? I'm seeing expressions of contentment with KF.
The OP is about Glen Mason. Kirk is not like Glen Mason. Last season Iowa had a legit shot to get to the NCG and national guys like Ivan Maisel and Skip Bayless said so. That's beyond "Glen Mason Territory". If Kirk is in Glen Mason Territory then Bob Stoops is too.
Of course Iowa could do better with the next coach but there's no reason now to try and find out.
Section136
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So people would be fine if we went 5-3 in the B1G every year and never contended for a conference title or BCS Bowl berth? Granted, 5-3 could win the division in a fluke year but it is not likely to happen. Then people would **** and moan that KF never leads us to big bowl games and conference titles.
There is always going to be that small percentage of the fanbase that thinks Iowa should win the conference and go to a BCS game every year and then become completely irrational and meltdown after every loss.
The funny thing is it is probably the people that do the least to support the University and athletic department that are the biggest crybabies.
DuffMan
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For the record there isn't a single team in the nation other than OSU and Oklahoma that has gone 5-3 or better in their conference every single season going back only 5 seasons.
If going a minimum of 5-3 EVERY season is your expectation you need to go route for one of those teams.
If going a minimum of 5-3 EVERY season is your expectation you need to go route for one of those teams.
I wouldn't mind seeing Ferentz go, since he won't make significant changes in his staff that could really help this program in many areas, imo. I have been saying this since all of the off the field issues that have continued to take place since the time of the "City Boyz".
tm3308
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2010: 4-4
2007: 4-4
2006: 2-6
2001: 4-4
That's four years in which he didn't meet the 5-3 expectation set forth by Springsteen. He made up for that with an 8-0 mark in 2002, 7-1 in 2004, and 6-2 in 2009. But that's not the same as meeting that expectation every year.
I was merely explaining what Springsteen's expectations, not my own.
Anyone who lived thru the early era at Iowa knows that hiring a good coach is far from an exact science. We thought that Jerry Burns was a bum,and the next guy would be better...righttt...after Lautebaur,Nagel,Commings jr, we got lucky and stumbled on a guy out of North Texas St....who was the man who resurrected Iowa football. He also produced a bevy of solid head coaches out of his coaching tree,one of whom was Kirk Ferentz. As they say, a bird in the hand,is better than gambling on a couple in the bush. We have a very good coach,gang. Sure, we could grab a Jerry Kill or Kevin Wilson and hope for better,but odds are we would end up with a re-run of our 60's revolving door of coaches. Iowa is not a natural football power. We are a solid football school because of Evy,Hayden and KF. You cannot just plug an average guy in and succeed at Iowa.
We are in a conference with 4 of the top 6 alltime football victory powerhouses. If we finish in the top tier with them most years,we are overachieving. Where is Iowa on the list of alltime football wins?
We are in a conference with 4 of the top 6 alltime football victory powerhouses. If we finish in the top tier with them most years,we are overachieving. Where is Iowa on the list of alltime football wins?
tm3308
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He said 5-3 minimum. I don't necessarily agree with that expectation, I'm just explaining it.
As for winning the conference ,does anyone think that in 2009 if Terrel Pryor had gone down for OSU's last three games vs Ricky Stanzi ..that Iowa would not have won the league that year. That was bad luck...KF put us in position to win his 3rd Big Ten title that year.
DuffMan
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nope, Alabama is out. to my knowledge the only two bcs teams to accomplish this are oklahoma and ohio state
latrans
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Well that's not an unreasonable expectation then is it?
ICHawk24
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I'm convinced. Kirk needs to be fired. Replaced by Bob Stoops or Luke Finkell.
shonblatt
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Hey now- the last time I checked, Sweater Vest is still available.
DesMoinesHawki
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What frustrated me most about the PSU loss is PSU is not that good and we simply played non-inspired football. If we lost to a better opponent I can accept that. But when you show up after a bye week and simply look flat and not into it emotionally -- well, that is hard to accept. I am not one of the people crawling out to say rid of Kirk or KOK, etc., but when you see a performance like we saw last weekend it leaves you scratching your head as to why the coaches did not have us more prepared. We are in dangerous territory of laying too many eggs (i.e. @ Minnesota; @ PSU). These are games we should have won. Good teams win the games you are supposed to win. PSU is not that good. In fact, PSU did not even play that well Saturday and we still could not muster anything against them. The game was there for the taking and yet we looked like our BYE week was against PSU. Kirk is not beyond being criticized. He is one of the most well-compensated coaches in the country and with that come expectations. You don't lose games you should not lose. The coaching staff definitely needed to take some heat for the PSU performance. I placed this loss on them. Yes, the players need to come out and perform but the play calling and the intensity were simply not there. And that is what leaves us scratching our heads.
whammer33024
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losing AT penn state is laying an egg? maybe you need to accept that IOWA is not that good. penn state was favored in the game. therefore they won a game they were supposed to
clicheusername3
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OK...I'll do it...who the font is Glen Mason?
