ESPNU's "The Experts" break down Iowa and the Big Ten race
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JonDMiller
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It's shows like this that make me consider sending out my resume tape 
H8IAST8
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It's shows like this that make me consider sending out my resume tape
How many former players are on that panel?
It's shows like this that make me consider sending out my resume tape
Yeah, most of the "experts" didn't have a grasp on what was going on in the conference. It doesn't take that much time to look up a team's schedule.
I think they all were, except for Mark Schlabach (who writes for ESPN.com)
H8IAST8
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That's the problem with alot of sports broadcasting IMO...
H8IAST8
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Right, former players are the ones who usually seem lost...
OUTofTOWNHAWK
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Sometimes I start a sentence and dont know what Im going to say and hope I find it along the way. If you dont know about the Big Ten why are you on tv talking about it.
Iowatailgate
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How the heck is that show called "The Experts"
Which one was the expert!?!
Which one was the expert!?!
bamahawkeye
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Here is the problem I have with OSU and people that think their "schedule" is ridiculous.
Compare them with Alabama, and I use this because Alabama and OSU lost in consecutive weeks, in much the same manner.
My first problem with the schedule when comparing these two teams is this:
Each team loses to a top 20 team (at the time) on the road. Both pretty handily. Bama drops 7 spots to #8 and OSU drops 10 spots to #11. Where is Wisky and S. Carolina now, and who would the "experts" say is better right now?
Moving on to the non-conference schedule.
Who was Bama's "circled" non-conference foe: Penn State. The rest of their "solid" non-conference slate: San Jose St., Georgia St. and Duke.
OSU's "circled" non-conference foe: Miami. The rest of their slate: Marshall, Ohio U. and E. Michigan.
Are we really going to sit here and criticize OSU for their non-conference schedule when comparing them to the almighty Bama? What is the difference?
As for the SEC vs. the Big 10:
I'll give Alabama the benefit of the doubt here because the play LSU and Auburn in the next 4 weeks. They also play Miss. St. So Bama has 3 pretty good opponents left. OSU only has Iowa left when it comes to teams of substance, but I would argue Penn St. and Michigan are very comparable to Miss. St. And OSU didn't get to play MSU, the other stud in the Big 10 stable of 4. So an edge here to Bama.
Now look at who Bama and OSU have beaten so far:
Bama's best win right now is against Arkansas. They've also beat Florida and Penn St., two teams that aren't very good.
Compare that with OSU. Their best win is against Miami, and the only other win I could throw in is Illinois, which I would say is better than Bama's Penn St. win, and close to the quality of their win over Florida.
Why type all this? Good question! I was just asking myself the same question because this is getting way too long. Well, actually, I'm sick of living in SEC country (Alabama) and hearing how much better the SEC is than every other conference (sorry, but anybody that looks at the last 3 years in can see the gap isn't what it once was). The Bama schedule isn't that much better than OSU, but because it's "top of the food chain" Bama and they play in the SEC, there in lies the bias. Believe me, I get it. I understand this is the way it is and until the Big 10 wins on the biggest stage, this stigma will be there. I get it. I do. But it also proves to me how much of a joke college football is. That "experts" or the media or computers sit here and get to vote or choose who is better based on preconceived notions and data that is based on reputation and rankings that carry way too much weight. The top of college football and the pretty good of college football are much closer than they were 4 years ago is my point.
Compare them with Alabama, and I use this because Alabama and OSU lost in consecutive weeks, in much the same manner.
My first problem with the schedule when comparing these two teams is this:
Each team loses to a top 20 team (at the time) on the road. Both pretty handily. Bama drops 7 spots to #8 and OSU drops 10 spots to #11. Where is Wisky and S. Carolina now, and who would the "experts" say is better right now?
Moving on to the non-conference schedule.
Who was Bama's "circled" non-conference foe: Penn State. The rest of their "solid" non-conference slate: San Jose St., Georgia St. and Duke.
OSU's "circled" non-conference foe: Miami. The rest of their slate: Marshall, Ohio U. and E. Michigan.
Are we really going to sit here and criticize OSU for their non-conference schedule when comparing them to the almighty Bama? What is the difference?
As for the SEC vs. the Big 10:
I'll give Alabama the benefit of the doubt here because the play LSU and Auburn in the next 4 weeks. They also play Miss. St. So Bama has 3 pretty good opponents left. OSU only has Iowa left when it comes to teams of substance, but I would argue Penn St. and Michigan are very comparable to Miss. St. And OSU didn't get to play MSU, the other stud in the Big 10 stable of 4. So an edge here to Bama.
Now look at who Bama and OSU have beaten so far:
Bama's best win right now is against Arkansas. They've also beat Florida and Penn St., two teams that aren't very good.
Compare that with OSU. Their best win is against Miami, and the only other win I could throw in is Illinois, which I would say is better than Bama's Penn St. win, and close to the quality of their win over Florida.
Why type all this? Good question! I was just asking myself the same question because this is getting way too long. Well, actually, I'm sick of living in SEC country (Alabama) and hearing how much better the SEC is than every other conference (sorry, but anybody that looks at the last 3 years in can see the gap isn't what it once was). The Bama schedule isn't that much better than OSU, but because it's "top of the food chain" Bama and they play in the SEC, there in lies the bias. Believe me, I get it. I understand this is the way it is and until the Big 10 wins on the biggest stage, this stigma will be there. I get it. I do. But it also proves to me how much of a joke college football is. That "experts" or the media or computers sit here and get to vote or choose who is better based on preconceived notions and data that is based on reputation and rankings that carry way too much weight. The top of college football and the pretty good of college football are much closer than they were 4 years ago is my point.
SDK46
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Paragraph breaks dude! Whew.
These guys represent IMO the typical knowledge base of those actually voting on the future of teams, year after year.
Time to scrap the BCS for a playoff.
tm3308
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I've been saying since 2008 that the SEC is down, and that the gap isn't nearly as big as it used to be. However, the media did seem to be a little late to the party in regards to the SEC. While it hit its peak in 2006/2007, it was probably the best conference for a few years before that, and they didn't really get credit for it. It was all about the Big Ten and Big 12, and USC. So since the media was late getting on the bandwagon, they're late getting off. The SEC I think is better this year than it was last year, but all of the good teams are lumped in the West, and the division winner there gets essentially a freebie in the SEC CG, especially if Florida manages to win the East.
Everything is cyclical, and eventually the SEC will take a step back and a new conference will take over as the best in the land. That's just how it is.
P.S.- I do feel sorry for you having to live in the South and having to put up with all that crap.
