The dirt follows Pearl to Auburn

What will be interesting is when they get done withh the 100 dollar bills and go after nickels and dimes if at all.
 


I wonder if this spells the end of the partnerships between athletic apparel companies and universities. I also wonder if it spells the end of the shady AAU circuits as well...
 


Couple of thoughts.... For me that's a lot.

1. 90 percent of Federal indictments end with plea bargaining. 90 percent of those that don't plea bargain are convicted. You are indicted....you are screwed. Lot's of singing canaries.

2. This will likely end with more university oversight at the top admin level. The days of untouchable coaches and non-transparent contracts are probably over.
 


HawkGold said:
Couple of thoughts.... For me that's a lot.

1. 90 percent of Federal indictments end with plea bargaining. 90 percent of those that don't plea bargain are convicted. You are indicted....you are screwed. Lot's of singing canaries.

2. This will likely end with more university oversight at the top admin level. The days of untouchable coaches and non-transparent contracts are probably over.
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You hit it on the head. If I am an assistant coach who was the bag man on these deals, Id already be in the US attorney’s office with my attorney cutting a deal to tell them all I know/did. No way would I take a fall for something that was coming from the top to begin with. The days of the Patinos of the world making the patsy take the fall are over, as the Feds are involved and they want the patsies rolling on the head cheese.
 


HawkGold said:
Couple of thoughts.... For me that's a lot.

1. 90 percent of Federal indictments end with plea bargaining. 90 percent of those that don't plea bargain are convicted. You are indicted....you are screwed. Lot's of singing canaries.

2. This will likely end with more university oversight at the top admin level. The days of untouchable coaches and non-transparent contracts are probably over.
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I really really hope you are right, but it's difficult for me to be that optimistic.
 


deanvogs said:
You hit it on the head. If I am an assistant coach who was the bag man on these deals, Id already be in the US attorney’s office with my attorney cutting a deal to tell them all I know/did. No way would I take a fall for something that was coming from the top to begin with. The days of the Patinos of the world making the patsy take the fall are over, as the Feds are involved and they want the patsies rolling on the head cheese.
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Forensic audits of shoe company books coming? That could be interesting on what is found.
 


deanvogs said:
You hit it on the head. If I am an assistant coach who was the bag man on these deals, Id already be in the US attorney’s office with my attorney cutting a deal to tell them all I know/did. No way would I take a fall for something that was coming from the top to begin with. The days of the Patinos of the world making the patsy take the fall are over, as the Feds are involved and they want the patsies rolling on the head cheese.
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That's just it. These assistant coaches aren't the ring leaders organizing all this. They are just that the bag men which serves a couple purposes. It's a job for them to do for one thing and it keeps the head coaches/ADs at arms length away from it all. The whole plausible deniability card isn't going to fly when all the chirping gets started. I wonder to what extent the HCs can be held legally responsible if there's no 'proof' or paper trail directly tying them to any of it. I mean if a kid or their families word or even assistant coaches say yeah we talked about it is that enough to implicate them?
 


Anthony Bland has ties to Steve Fisher.

Rick Pitino, Steve Fisher, Bruce Pearle, Sean Miller, Brad Underwood. Head coaches of note with ties to investigation. Three of no surprise.
 




hawkeyes87 said:
Gosh I just hope poor LaVar Ball's name doesn't come up in any of this.

Can't stand the thought of him going away. Forever.
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Hmm well that'd include our dear friend Alford so that'd sure make things interesting. Are they an Adidas school? I could be wrong about that
 


hawkeyemark said:
Very interesting point raised here that a majority of Hawk fans probably don't feel comfortable coming to grips with. I have the sense that coaches like Raveling who don't quite cut it at the D1 level find themselves well compensated with the shoe companies. Keep in mind that Raveling recommended our current assistant who has a similar background and a long career with Nike and the AAU when Fran went to him seeking advice on who to hire as his third assistant.

Not trying to throw anybody under the bus but just want our fans to realize that while we won't have anybody going to jail Iowa may not come out of this as squeaky clean as we would all like to think. This whole thing will spread well beyond the obvious suspects as people start to talk. It gave me pause when I read that Iowa's recruitment of Tyler Cook has received mention in some of the articles.
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woah woah woah..... elaborate, please! I dont know anything about this stuff... Or if you could reference the articles you saw that mentioned tyler cook. thanks
 


According to a report, the investigative team is the same one that prosecuted Enron and several high profile organized crime figures.

Would be interesting...if the NCAA is implicated.
 




Follow the money



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University of Michigan Big Ten Nike $10,440,000 View Details
The Ohio State University Big Ten Nike $6,205,681 View Details
Indiana University Big Ten Adidas $5,625,000 View Details
University of Maryland Big Ten Under Armour $4,550,000 View Details
University of Nebraska Big Ten Adidas $4,190,000 View Details
University of Illinois Big Ten Nike $4,000,000 View Details
Michigan State University Big Ten Nike $3,960,000 View Details
University of Minnesota Big Ten Nike $2,254,000 View Details
Purdue University Big Ten Nike $2,000,000 View Details


University of Iowa Big Ten Nike $1,950,000 View Details
Rutgers University Big Ten Adidas $1,255,000 View Details

University of Texas Big 12 Nike $12,850,000 View Details
University of Kansas Big 12 Adidas $6,650,000 View Details
University of Oklahoma Big 12 Nike $5,150,000 View Details
Oklahoma State University Big 12 Nike $4,500,000 View Details
West Virginia University Big 12 Nike $3,300,000 View Details
Texas Tech University Big 12 Under Armour $2,550,000 View Details
Iowa State University Big 12 Nike $470,000 View Details



 


University of South Carolina SEC Under Armour $8,500,000 View Details
Texas A&M University SEC Adidas $6,700,000 View Details
Auburn University SEC Under Armour $6,200,000 View Details
Louisiana State University SEC Nike $4,300,000 View Details
University of Georgia SEC Nike $3,813,000 View Details
University of Tennessee SEC Nike $3,800,000 View Details
University of Alabama SEC Nike $3,790,000 View Details
University of Kentucky SEC Nike $3,525,000 View Details
University of Florida SEC Nike $3,200,000 View Details
University of Missouri SEC Nike $3,150,000 View Details
UCLA Pac-12 Under Armour $8,900,000 View Details
University of Washington Pac-12 Nike $3,692,000 View Details
Oregon State University Pac-12 Nike $2,925,000 View Details
University of Oregon Pac-12 Nike $2,810,000 View Details
University of Utah Pac-12 Under Armour $2,541,000 View Details
University of Colorado Pac-12 Nike $2,505,000 View Details
Washington State University Pac-12 Nike $2,200,000 View Details
University of California, Berkeley Pac-12 Nike $2,192,500 View Details
University of Arizona Pac-12 Nike $2,150,000 View Details
Arizona State University Pac-12 Adidas View Detail
 


University of Louisville ACC Adidas $6,865,000 View Details
Florida State University ACC Nike $4,210,000 View Details
North Carolina State University ACC Adidas $4,050,000 View Details
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill ACC Nike $3,875,000 View Details
University of Virginia ACC Nike $3,075,000 View Details
Clemson University ACC Nike $2,701,500 View Details
Georgia Institute of Technology ACC Russell Athletic $2,500,000 View Details
Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University ACC Nike $1,900,000 View Details
 


I can't tell if Gold's saying Michigan is gonna be in trouble or if Iowa State shouldn't be in a P5 conference.
 


HawkeyeStout said:
woah woah woah..... elaborate, please! I dont know anything about this stuff... Or if you could reference the articles you saw that mentioned tyler cook. thanks
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I found a reference to it by another poster I think here or maybe over at HR where I read but don't post. I would like to find it myself. I think the secondary stuff from the fallout of this will prove interesting whether we get a finger pointed at us or not. For example the ties to Steve Fisher at Michigan I find a surprise as I've always found him one of the more likable coaches in the conference and he seems like a guy who does things the right way. I just think we need to refrain from beating ourselves on the chest about what a clean program we run because this mess will yield a good number of surprises IMO.
 




Let's all "bend the knee" at the start of the national anthem prior to college BB games, to show support for these assistants and coaches, and corporations.

How can being "the best cheater" be wrong?
 


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