HawkeyeShane
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This.
My biggest complaint....our SOS
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HawkeyeShane
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Call Fran and let him know how you feel, Braveheart...
Fran says a lot of things. He was questioned on the schedule when it came out, he said the Big Ten would be good enough to lift our RPI where it needed to be. Scheduling that many 300+ RPI teams doesn't make sense for any power conference team especially a team like Iowa who was predicted to be near the bubble.
goldenhawk96
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I , for one, think it obvious May likes and is comfortable in 6th man role.
The JO aspect is unfortunate and frustrating. Really, if this team could shoot AT ALL we would be very good. But we cannot.
The JO aspect is unfortunate and frustrating. Really, if this team could shoot AT ALL we would be very good. But we cannot.
HawkeyeShane
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So you're saying that if Iowa had won those games that we've all mentioned, they'd be right there?
HawkeyeShane
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He's even said as much golden...he loves being the spark off of the bench, even when told that Fran had been contemplating starting him because he's been playing so well.
1977Hawkeye
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^^^^ This is the correct answer. ^^^^
You can still schedule winnable games - just make sure they aren't against the worst teams in D1 hoops. It doesn't mean your non-con has to consist of Kentucky, Kansas, Duke, etc.
HawkeyeShane
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Did you want "winnable" or "wins"? "Winnable" and "losses" against that level of competition does you no favors...Fran elected to get wins and build confidence. Deal with it.
hawkeyeguy85
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So you're saying that if Iowa had won those games that we've all mentioned, they'd be right there?
Exactly Shane.
Prior to Indiana, Iowa's record as far as RPI is concerned is 13.2 - 8, which accounts for .15566 of their RPI score.
If you flip just the Michigan State game, and Wisconsin game, their weighted RPI record becomes 15.2 - 6. Which would account for a boost to .179225 for that part of the RPI formula.
In other words a boost of .0235 to their RPI, moving them from 89 (according to ESPN Daily RPI) to 58.
Just two games. 31 spots.
HawkeyeShane
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#knowledge
hawkeyeguy85
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Edit, nevermind, this post was wrong, Nebby was on the road as well as Wisconsin...hopefully I'm not having some kind of premonition.
Still about 2 buckets from not having much of an RPI discussion.
Holding on against MSU and just ONE of the road losses -- doesn't matter which -- would produce that jump.
Still about 2 buckets from not having much of an RPI discussion.
Holding on against MSU and just ONE of the road losses -- doesn't matter which -- would produce that jump.
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bcl20
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hawkeyeguy85
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Even just erasing the MSU game moves them 22 spots to 67 (according to results prior to @Indiana).
The home losses against MSU and Indiana are the biggest anchors in terms of RPI score.
Which, as a side note, is also why the popular refrain that a "Win @Nebraska or @PSU or @terribleteam is worth more than a win at home against Indiana to RPI" is actually a misnomer.
Iowa's RPI would go up more by changing any one home loss to a win than it would changing any road loss to a win.
The home losses against MSU and Indiana are the biggest anchors in terms of RPI score.
Which, as a side note, is also why the popular refrain that a "Win @Nebraska or @PSU or @terribleteam is worth more than a win at home against Indiana to RPI" is actually a misnomer.
Iowa's RPI would go up more by changing any one home loss to a win than it would changing any road loss to a win.
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WindsorHawk
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We didn't have a tough non conference schedule? Huh! I'm surprised no one has brought this up until now. I'm hopeful it will be stronger in the future. Of course it would have made no sense whatsoever this year with 3 true freshmen and 3 true sophomores playing extensively. We also have only 1 senior. The non conference schedule this year with this team was exactly what it should have been.
Our only real problem this year was Marble getting hurt. Now that he's healthy again we're seeing what he's capable of doing on a regular basis. That tough patch of close losses is largely due to not having a healthy Marble IMO. There's nothing we can do about injuries. It's just bad luck and is the only reason we are not currently a lock for the NCAA Tourny IMO.
Our only real problem this year was Marble getting hurt. Now that he's healthy again we're seeing what he's capable of doing on a regular basis. That tough patch of close losses is largely due to not having a healthy Marble IMO. There's nothing we can do about injuries. It's just bad luck and is the only reason we are not currently a lock for the NCAA Tourny IMO.
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DDThompson
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I understand the reasoning Fran did it this season. We all knew going in it was a real soft non-conference. But you're right in hindsight. A team doesn't have to play against a lot of top 50 or top 100 rpi teams. Just don't schedule a bunch of 200+ teams. The rpi (and committee) reward losses to top 100 teams away vs. wins over 200+ teams.
The RPI is flawed, but it's not broken.
hawkeyeguy85
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You guys realize Middle Tennessee State (rpi 24) has almost an identical SOS as Iowa right?
Its all about winning games. Or at least not losing home games.
See earlier post. Finish off the Spartans and one other Big Ten team and RPI skyrockets.
Its all about winning games. Or at least not losing home games.
See earlier post. Finish off the Spartans and one other Big Ten team and RPI skyrockets.
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ChosenChildren
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This is the correct answer.
We simply haven't won enough games, but this team is showing improvement and, barring a complete collapse, should play in the post-season.
Good enough for me this year. Everybody needs to chill out
burky247
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My question is how do you necessarily forecast what a team's RPI is going to be? I mean you can always guess based on past indicators. But if Iowa had scheduled South Carolina, Texas Tech, Mississippi State, Drexel, and UNC Asheville, most people wouldn't have too much of a problem with it(based on past performance). Currently, all those teams are outside the RPI 200.
Conversely, had we scheduled Lehigh, Western Michigan, or Tennessee State, the same people would have been upset about that before the season started. And yet, their RPI are all under 120. Obviously Iowa went out of their way to create a softer schedule, but you can't always know which under the radar teams will flourish and which more known teams will bust.
Again, I'm confident that Iowa will make an effort to create a more competitive schedule next season.
Conversely, had we scheduled Lehigh, Western Michigan, or Tennessee State, the same people would have been upset about that before the season started. And yet, their RPI are all under 120. Obviously Iowa went out of their way to create a softer schedule, but you can't always know which under the radar teams will flourish and which more known teams will bust.
Again, I'm confident that Iowa will make an effort to create a more competitive schedule next season.
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