Where the FBS signees come from

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B1G states:

State
Signees
Players
Ratio
Maryland/DC
49
15,639
320
Ohio
145
46,463
321
Pennsylvania
63
26,370
419
New Jersey
56
25,592
457
Indiana
38
22,050
581
Illinois
77
47,445
617
Michigan
62
42,743
690
Wisconsin
24
28,426
1185
Nebraska
5
10,041
2009
Iowa
8
19,519
2440
Minnesota
7
23,816
3403

A state-by-state breakdown of Division I FBS signees per participant. Data collected from participation stats distributed by the National Federation of High School Sports and signees as reported by Division I FBS schools and the Rivals.com database.

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Utah has it weighted in their direction. All of the players there are mormon and go to either Utah, Utah State or BYU. And they only have 8000 players in high school. Not quite fair.
 


Its official, Iowa and Minnesota are the two worst states for BCS football recruiting in the country.
And some fans are shocked that Iowa and Minny were near the bottom of the recruiting rankings....why?

To succeed at Iowa in football, the coach needs to be a fricking genius,and the world's greatest salesman.
 




JHHawk said:
Its official, Iowa and Minnesota are the two worst states for BCS football recruiting in the country.
And some fans are shocked that Iowa and Minny were near the bottom of the recruiting rankings....why?

To succeed at Iowa in football, the coach needs to be a fricking genius,and the world's greatest salesman.
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People want to believe that top talent from across the country want to play at Iowa over OSU, USC, Oregon and SEC teams, not gonna happen.

It isn't that KF and staff aren't selling the Iowa program "good enough" but it is a hard sell and it is equally as hard for the homers out there to accept it.

I personally think Iowa can do better at recruiting in which players they recruit but to me that comes down to evaluation system. I know it probably isn't that easy but something seems to be wrong. Maybe it is KF and staff, maybe it isn't, who knows.
 
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Casey388 said:
Utah has it weighted in their direction. All of the players there are mormon and go to either Utah, Utah State or BYU. And they only have 8000 players in high school. Not quite fair.
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The statistics correct for population.
 


JHHawk said:
Its official, Iowa and Minnesota are the two worst states for BCS football recruiting in the country.
And some fans are shocked that Iowa and Minny were near the bottom of the recruiting rankings....why?

To succeed at Iowa in football, the coach needs to be a fricking genius,and the world's greatest salesman.
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Or send a recruit 54 handwritten emails..
 


dave3912 said:
People want to believe that top talent from across the country want to play at Iowa over OSU, USC, Oregon and SEC teams, not gonna happen.

It isn't that KF and staff aren't selling the Iowa program "good enough" but it is a hard sell and it is equally as hard for the homers out there to accept it.

I personally think Iowa can do better at recruiting in which players they recruit but to me that comes down to evaluation system. I know it probably isn't that easy but something seems to be wrong. Maybe it is KF and staff, maybe it isn't, who knows.
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The bigger problem is attrition...
 


HawkeyeMcNutt said:
The bigger problem is attrition...
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I agree attrition played a big problem in what happened over the past few years. I just think that Iowa's top 4* talent has a bad trend of not panning out that well. Plus the 2* - walk ons aren't being developed the way the staff seemed to do better back at the beginning of Ferentz's career as HC at Iowa.
 




JHHawk said:
Its official, Iowa and Minnesota are the two worst states for BCS football recruiting in the country.
And some fans are shocked that Iowa and Minny were near the bottom of the recruiting rankings....why?

To succeed at Iowa in football, the coach needs to be a fricking genius,and the world's greatest salesman.
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Unfortunately for us, Kirk is neither.
 


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Or send a recruit 54 handwritten emails..



dave3912 said:
That still weirds me out, plus the player likes it. What does that say about him!
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Know why it sounds weird? Read it again.
 


HawkeyeMcNutt said:
The bigger problem is attrition...
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Do you know how Iowa compares to other programs in the Big Ten with regard to attrition? I have never seen that data presented, but you obviously have a source for it, or you would not claim it to be an "Iowa problem." Please help!
 


I read this as Iowa and Minn HS football programs are doing a crappy job producing talent from within their ranks. This was eye-opening to me, I always thought we just had a population issue. I didn't realize it was equally a failed utilization of resources issue.
 


JHHawk said:
Its official, Iowa and Minnesota are the two worst states for BCS football recruiting in the country.
And some fans are shocked that Iowa and Minny were near the bottom of the recruiting rankings....why?

To succeed at Iowa in football, the coach needs to be a fricking genius,and the world's greatest salesman.
Click to expand...

The other way in which Iowa is behind the 8 Ball is that there are 2 FBS/BCS programs in the state. Unlike Nebraska, Minnesota, Wisconsin and Missouri where there is only 1 school. Huge home field advantage for those 4 schools.

Along with that Illinois which is a huge state only has NW, Ill and N Ill.
 




It really doesn't help that a state of our size has two BCS conference schools and we rip each other's guts out on the recruits in state.
 


hawkinn3 said:
It really doesn't help that a state of our size has two BCS conference schools and we rip each other's guts out on the recruits in state.
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Over 8-10 guys a year? Really? Here we go with 'the state is only big enough for one bcs team' nonsense again.
 




JHHawk said:
Its official, Iowa and Minnesota are the two worst states for BCS football recruiting in the country.
And some fans are shocked that Iowa and Minny were near the bottom of the recruiting rankings....why?

To succeed at Iowa in football, the coach needs to be a fricking genius,and the world's greatest salesman.
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Just curious. Is ferentz either?

FreedComanche
 


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