Does 21-10 (10-8) Get Us In?



If Iowa finishes 10-8 in the BT they are a LOCK!! BTT conference is ranked #1 any team finishing the regular season +2 in the win column that will = LOCK!!
 


kmajhawk said:
Oh, stop it. Stop your delusional madness now. If anywhere, this team will be headed to the NIT. Again. No way it is dancing this year.

This team cannot shoot, plain and simple. You have to be able to do that to get to the NCAA. Honestly, the way this team performed against Purdue and nearly gave up its huge lead after an emotion-filled first half against Wisconsin, I think it would be better to not be selected for the NCAA tournament. Go to the NIT, go far, then re-tool for next year.
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Chill out buddy. I said if they get to 21-10 not when. Do I think they will get there? Probably not. Do I think it's possible? Yes, but it would be a very difficult task. It's always better to be in the NCAA than NIT. I'm not going to stop hoping they can make a run to make it to the tournament. What fun is it to hope for them to finish out of March Madness?
 






DunderMifflinHk said:
Chill out buddy. I said if they get to 21-10 not when. Do I think they will get there? Probably not. Do I think it's possible? Yes, but it would be a very difficult task. It's always better to be in the NCAA than NIT. I'm not going to stop hoping they can make a run to make it to the tournament. What fun is it to hope for them to finish out of March Madness?
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So you don't think they'll dance but you decided to post a silly thread suggesting otherwise?
 


I think 10-8 forces the committee to overlook lack of big wins. 9-9 would need a couple in the tournament though.
 


This team is not going to get to 9-9. We have seen 2 straight games of some of the worst shooting and they are now 2-5, they can lose to anybody in the conference. Even the games at PSU and Nebraska scare me. They will be fortunate to finish 8-10 in conference, that would leave them needing to win at least 2 in the BTT to get on the bubble.

This team has got to learn how to close out games, the losses to MSU and Purdue might be what sends Iowa back to the NIT.
 




DunderMifflinHk said:
BPI -The College Basketball Power Index explained - ESPN

From Article:

System comparison

How is the College Basketball Power Index by the ESPN Stats & Information group) different than RPI or other advanced rating systems like Kenpom.com and Sagarin? Here is how the included elements compare to other systems.
Includes
RPI
BPI
Sagarin
Kenpom
Scoring margin
No
Yes
Yes
Yes
Diminishing returns for blowouts
No
Yes
Yes
No
Pace of game matters
No
Yes
No
Yes
Home/Neutral/Road
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
SOS beyond Opponent's opponents' W-L
No
Yes
Yes
Yes
All wins are better than losses (before Opp Adj)
Yes
Yes
No
No
De-weighting games with missing key players
No
Yes
No
No
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Boy, the RPI is a Really Pathetic Indicator of basketball team strenth looking at this chart.

The BPI would be better but I doubt the selection committee would use it. No way Iowa gets in at 8-10 even if the BPI indicates they should.
 


DunderMifflinHk said:
Reading comprehension my friend. Re-read my first post.
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> Not saying this happens just that if it happens and we finish 21-10 (10-8) would that be enough to make it into the tournament?

Oh, I think I my comprehension is better than the average product of an Iowa public school education. You're the one raising the possibility that Iowa goes 10-8 in the conference. Even with the best meds, that scenario is simply not realistic. My point stands.
 


storminspank said:
Certainly on The Bubble.
Depends on the mid-majors and the few Power-6 Bubble Teams.

Winning one during the BTT would help, Playing in the B1G already helps.

I think 10 is prob enough regardless of marquee wins just because of how tough the B1G is this year.
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I am of firmest opinion that anything less than 9-9 or worse means TWO wins in BTT a "must". 10-8 or better and a win in BTT helps, but really only affects NCAA seeding, i.e., win BTT and we would be a 6- to 8-seed, 3 wins (assuming we play all 4 days) means 8- to-10-seed, 2 wins means 11- or 12-seed. One win at 10-8 vs. one win at 9-9 or 11-7 is pretty much meaningless and NCAA status is really only affected by what you cited, i.e., mid-majors and bubble teams from Power-6 and how they do in respective conference tournaments.

ISU winning the other day sure doesn't hurt, Wichita State beating Creighton doesn't either. Va Tech sliding doesn't help. We really need to steal a win over Indiana, no worse than a "split" with Minny, and beat the rest of the teams on our schedule.
 


That door you heard slamming shut when the final horn sounded in West Lafayette was Iowa's entrance to the dance.
 


I believe 10-8 is not only possible but probable. Don't just tell me it won't happen. Tell me what you think Iowa's record will be. What's the bet? The winner finds this thread and simply says I was right and you were wrong. If you're right I will reluctantly acknowledge you were right. If I'm right will you be back to respond?

kmajhawk said:
> Not saying this happens just that if it happens and we finish 21-10 (10-8) would that be enough to make it into the tournament?

Oh, I think I my comprehension is better than the average product of an Iowa public school education. You're the one raising the possibility that Iowa goes 10-8 in the conference. Even with the best meds, that scenario is simply not realistic. My point stands.
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WindsorHawk said:
I believe 10-8 is not only possible but probable. Don't just tell me it won't happen. Tell me what you think Iowa's record will be. What's the bet? The winner finds this thread and simply says I was right and you were wrong. If you're right I will reluctantly acknowledge you were right. If I'm right will you be back to respond?
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If I am wrong, I will happily post a Josh Oglesby rainbow on your profile.
 


I will be very surprised if we don't make it at 10-8. It means we have won 7 of our last 8...per your projections. Included in those 10 wins will be victories over Minnesota, Purdue and Illinois...not great wins but decent wins. It almost certainly puts us in the top 7 in the conference...meaning a probable win over NW, Nebraska or Penn State in the 1st round of the BTT. It also means we will probably avoid Michigan in the 2nd round of the BTT...the one team that has completely dominated us this year in conference play.

DunderMifflinHk said:
Jan 31
W
Feb 3
L
Feb 6
L
Feb 9
W
Feb 14
W
Feb 17
W
Feb 21
W
Feb 27
W
Mar 2
L
Mar 5
W
Mar 9
W


Not saying this happens just that if it happens and we finish 21-10 (10-8) would that be enough to make it into the tournament? Our quality wins would be ISU, Wisc, Minn, and Illini. Not very impressive but solid. I'm thinking we would have to win 2 in the BTT. Get out of the first round and beat a top tier B10 team. That would put us at 23-11 and probably enough to get in. What do you think?
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kmajhawk said:
That door you heard slamming shut when the final horn sounded in West Lafayette was Iowa's entrance to the dance.
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If we go 10-8; which would have us beating Nebby twice, purdue home, Illinois home, NW home, PSU twice, and then just 1 win over @Wisc/Minny twice, is very doable. How crappy do you think this team is?
 


jozzer said:
If we go 10-8; which would have us beating Nebby twice, purdue home, Illinois home, NW home, PSU twice, and then just 1 win over @Wisc/Minny twice, is very doable. How crappy do you think this team is?
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[h=3]Purdue vs Iowa Basketball[/h]
01/27
Purdue
65
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62
Iowa
 


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