we all know the $EC cheats, but here are the details

[mrolympia]

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/4/10/5594348/college-football-bag-man-interview

yet cam netwon still "got away" with it

 

[NCHawker]

Even if players were paid $40l or $80k, there would still be extra under the table cash to steer them toward this team or that team. It doesn't work that way at the next level becasue they are drafted. I'm not proposing HS kids get drafted (its unrealistic), just explained via contrast.

 

[thetrza]

This is two weeks old, a decade in internet years.

 

[Sparky]

This is two weeks old, a decade in internet years.

And because it's two weeks old it's irrelevant, right?

 

[LG210]

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/4/10/5594348/college-football-bag-man-interview

yet cam netwon still "got away" with it

Interesting article. Thanks for posting.

 

[Hawknigh]

So, do you think this is just happening in the SEC? Or also in the Big 10?

 

[thetrza]

"Cam Netwon" is keeping his Heisman, Auburn keeps their BCS trophy, the SEC dominates the playoff negotiations, and the SEC Commissioner is leading the power conferences away from the NCAA into some new division, and nobody sees any consequences from the bag man article.

 

[LG210]

So, do you think this is just happening in the SEC? Or also in the Big 10?

My guess is that there are varying degrees of participation at all BCS schools (and some non-BCS schools).

 

[thetrza]

This is one of the reasons I only follow college basketball. Kids play for the love of the game, not some big payoff or NBA future.

 

[ICHawk24]

My guess is that there are varying degrees of participation at all BCS schools (and some non-BCS schools).

I would guess that its a continuum. SEC is easily outdistancing the field. B1G has some, even Iowa has a little. But Kirk and co. are in the very shallow end.

 

[hawkfan1319]

Lol SCam Newton and Auburn paid the NCAA off way too well to have anything taken away. You can get more guilty than they were. If the NCAA is just at all the entire SEC should get the death penalty soon.

 

[Hawknigh]

I would guess that its a continuum. SEC is easily outdistancing the field. B1G has some, even Iowa has a little. But Kirk and co. are in the very shallow end.

If this is happening as much as the article indicates, why doesn't more info leak out about it? The people involved are not just die-hard fans who want their team to win even if they don't get any credit. If they are fans of a particular team, they have to be talking about it somewhere. And if they talk, then it leaks out.

Or in the competitiveness of it all, certainly a few bagmen are going to leak out info about other bagmen in order to get an advantage for themselves.

Perhaps this could work in silence if the bagmen really don't care about a particular team, but just want to get some payment down the road when an athlete goes pro. As long as they are "fans" of a particular team, I can't imagine how it could stay so quiet.

Does anyone here know a bagman? Maybe you have a "friend" who is one. What keeps them from bragging about their accomplishments? Why doesn't more info leak out?

 

[Benddontbreak]

Interesting question. I’d say it’s most common at the top tier BCS schools that are constantly competing with SEC schools in the recruiting process. This might help explain why Kirk doesn’t like Urban and Dantonio. The Oklahoma’s and Texas’ are also pretty guilty I’m sure. It’s gotta be nearly non-existent at Iowa considering some of the recruiting classes we bring in.

 

[LG210]

I would guess that its a continuum. SEC is easily outdistancing the field. B1G has some, even Iowa has a little. But Kirk and co. are in the very shallow end.

This is my gut instinct, as well.

 

[tm3308]

If this is happening as much as the article indicates, why doesn't more info leak out about it? The people involved are not just die-hard fans who want their team to win even if they don't get any credit. If they are fans of a particular team, they have to be talking about it somewhere. And if they talk, then it leaks out.

Or in the competitiveness of it all, certainly a few bagmen are going to leak out info about other bagmen in order to get an advantage for themselves.

Perhaps this could work in silence if the bagmen really don't care about a particular team, but just want to get some payment down the road when an athlete goes pro. As long as they are "fans" of a particular team, I can't imagine how it could stay so quiet.

Does anyone here know a bagman? Maybe you have a "friend" who is one. What keeps them from bragging about their accomplishments? Why doesn't more info leak out?

I thought this was pretty well explained in the story.

 

[Hawknigh]

I thought this was pretty well explained in the story.

I didn't find it convincing. Fans like this tend to want to talk about it to someone.

 

[mrolympia]

This is two weeks old, a decade in internet years.

nobody posted it yet.

 

[Hawknigh]

I didn't find it convincing. Fans like this tend to want to talk about it to someone.

Or players are bound to talk about these things. It doesn't seem that it would be too hard for something to leak out. If a player says anything to anyone, a bagman could be exposed immediately.

On the one hand, it seems like players are being given a lot from somewhere. On the other hand, it is hard to imagine how it could be kept this quiet.

 

[Igothawked]

This is one of the reasons I only follow college basketball. Kids play for the love of the game, not some big payoff or NBA future.

Yep. This is exactly what Kentucky players do isnt it? I think college hoops is just as bad at high levels. Middle of the road D1 schools I get your point but I would say football and hoops are very similar in this ordeal.

 

[528646]

I absolutely 100% believe this could be kept secret. This is where the guys are getting their $$$...blow the lid and bye bye $$$. If I'm a poor college kid, I could keep my mouth pretty well shut if there were a few thousand $$$ in it for me.