Trey Burke, He Gone



Not unexpected but good news nonetheless.

The Hawks are looking more and more like a preseason top 4 team in the Big.
 




Burke "might" be a lottery pick? Are you kidding? Trey Burke is Derrick Rose Chris Paul good. Whoever passes on him is a complete tool. I haven't seen a player in college this year that sniffs his talent.
 








Payne has already said he is coming back...which surprised me because...well...I wanted him gone since he's a 6'10" stud with 3pt range and a Hawk killer...since they don't call fouls on him when slams into people on his blocked arms...I mean "shots"...
 


Payne has already said he is coming back...which surprised me because...well...I wanted him gone since he's a 6'10" stud with 3pt range and a Hawk killer...since they don't call fouls on him when slams into people on his blocked arms...I mean "shots"...

When was this? Last I read was this, which is dated Friday April 12:


Adreian Payne (Michigan State): The junior is reportedly working with Tom Izzo to attain the proper information about his stock. But the athletic, 6-10 forward was impressive in a pair of double-double efforts against Memphis and Duke in the NCAA tournament. He also demonstrated his versatility (38.1 percent from beyond the arc) throughout the season. He has a rare combo of size, athleticism and range.

A look at college underclassmen that are decided and undecided about the NBA draft - college basketball - ESPN
 


When was this? Last I read was this, which is dated Friday April 12:


Adreian Payne (Michigan State): The junior is reportedly working with Tom Izzo to attain the proper information about his stock. But the athletic, 6-10 forward was impressive in a pair of double-double efforts against Memphis and Duke in the NCAA tournament. He also demonstrated his versatility (38.1 percent from beyond the arc) throughout the season. He has a rare combo of size, athleticism and range.

A look at college underclassmen that are decided and undecided about the NBA draft - college basketball - ESPN
Well that's solid information...my info came from a local Des Moines radio station when talking about the subject last week...

You'd think I'd learn...:eek:
 


top three in my opinion

I keep going back n forth on this. Was all-in on Hawks being legit B1G contenders (as in, still in the race on March 1, 2014). Then tempered it a little after Baylor abused them (still in the conversation, still NCAA lock but most likely 4th or 5th finish). Now have come a little back toward the higher expectations, especially as the defections keep coming.

I'm thinking, Iowa was so close this season against all those teams with all those guys who are leaving. Now that so many of them are gone, and Iowa should be a better shooting, physically tougher more experienced team next year, how can that not translate to Iowa winning many of those games?

Yes, you can point to great incoming recruits to replace many of those guys but I will point to them still being freshman and cite Iowa's beat down of #16 Michigan, 2 years ago, with Burke as a freshman pg and a younger Hardaway & GRIII.

I still think OhST and maybe MSU (depending on Harris and Payne decisions; even then, Iowa was mauled into blowing two late leads or they would have swept them, this year) will turn out to be the teams to beat but find myself coming full circle that Hawks will be right there in that 2-3 finish.

Fast forward to November, please! (No one will miss suffering the upcoming ordeal, this fall.)
 




I keep going back n forth on this. Was all-in on Hawks being legit B1G contenders (as in, still in the race on March 1, 2014). Then tempered it a little after Baylor abused them (still in the conversation, still NCAA lock but most likely 4th or 5th finish). Now have come a little back toward the higher expectations, especially as the defections keep coming.

I'm thinking, Iowa was so close this season against all those teams with all those guys who are leaving. Now that so many of them are gone, and Iowa should be a better shooting, physically tougher more experienced team next year, how can that not translate to Iowa winning many of those games?

Yes, you can point to great incoming recruits to replace many of those guys but I will point to them still being freshman and cite Iowa's beat down of #16 Michigan, 2 years ago, with Burke as a freshman pg and a younger Hardaway & GRIII.

I still think OhST and maybe MSU (depending on Harris and Payne decisions; even then, Iowa was mauled into blowing two late leads or they would have swept them, this year) will turn out to be the teams to beat but find myself coming full circle that Hawks will be right there in that 2-3 finish.

Fast forward to November, please! (No one will miss suffering the upcoming ordeal, this fall.)

I couldn't agree more with the points you made about defections and how close we came to winning some of those games even with some of the best players playing in those games. The additions of new players will add more strength and depth to our bench next season and I have a feeling that we will see improvement in the freshmen from this past season. Keep an eye on Clemmons. If he can discipline himself and play within himself and cut down on turnovers he has the skillset and explosiveness to be a handful for defenders to deal with. Woody started to show us a little more of what he can bring to the table and with more weight lifting and a stronger frame he is not going to be taken lightly by opponents. If Marble can give us the consistency he showed in the NIT run (except the last game) then the pieces should finally come together to make for a very special year next season. I expect all the seniors to bring it next season. This should be one of the best teams we have seen for sometime in a Iowa Men's basketball uniform.

I am hoping KF can make the fall much better than what many expect and help the time leading up to the basketball season move along a quicker and more enjoyable manner. Best of luck to the football team. :)
 
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If nobody else leaves Michigan they are a Final Four contender again.

Agree, hopefully the rest of their stars take the money and run. I heard on the radio the other day this might be the weakest draft in the past 15 years, so players who are on the edge should leave.
 










They have a lot of talent but Burke got them to the championship game...see Kansas. He made McGary look like he's ready for the NBA...by giving him the ball in the right places and drawing the defense to himself. I don't think they make the Final 4 with no Burke. He was the national player of the year for a reason...because he's that good.
 




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