HaydenHawk56
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I don't think so with the Wisconsin win today.
To be clear, Iowa has no chance for Indy right? Eddy on radio seemed to think they are still alive
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I think there is a way to have a 3 way tie at the top. If minny loses there last 2 which includes one to Wisky and Wisky gets upset next week prior to playing Minny and Iowa wins out there could be a 3 way tie but I am not sure who wins the tiebreaker. Maybe Iowa wins the tiebreaker if they have the best record against the West rivals
kameltoez102
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what is really disappointing is the preseason favorite Nebraska isn’t going. BWAAHHHHA. Doesn’t matter who is going this year I see no one in the conference challenging OSU
HaydenHawk56
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That very well could be the case. The only thing I'm confused on is Wisconsin would have wins over Minny and Iowa (if all three teams had the same record). I wonder if they get the nod because of head to head against Iowa and Minny?
SpiderRico
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There is no mathematical chance left. A 3 way tie requires Wisky to beat Minny. When that happens, the first tie breaker is record against the tied teams. Wisky would be 2-0, we’d be 1-1 and Minn would be 0-2. Wisky would go to Indy.
HaydenHawk56
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Thanks Rico....I wish there was some way, but I think you nailed it.
hawkfan2679
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Just read an article that said in case of a 3 way tie, intra-division record is first tie-breaker. If that article is to be believed, Iowa can win the west by:
- Winning last 2
- Purdue beats Wisconsin
- NW beats Minnesota
- Wisconsin beats Minnesota
Not the greatest chance, but not totally eliminated...
Fryowa
Administrator
Incorrect.
If there is a division tie, the first tie breaker is head to head matchups.
See 1. (a) on this reference from the B1G website.
https://bigten.org/news/2011/8/10/Big_Ten_Conference_Football_Divisional_Tiebreaker.aspx
We are done.
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SpiderRico
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I just saw that article as well. The author is flat out wrong unfortunately. The first tie breaker is head to head among the 3 teams. If all 3 are 1-1 against the other 2, THEN it goes to division record. In the most fortunate scenario for Iowa, Minnesota would lose to NW and Wisc, Wisc would lose to Purdue and beat Minny, and Iowa would beat Illinois and Neb. Then all 3 would be 6-3, but Wisky would be 2-0 against Iowa and Minny, thus would win the West.
InGoodCo
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I think they are the best in the West too, unfortunately sometimes the best teams have to play 5 teams ranked in top 25 w/ 3 of those games on the road. It happens, and it's not just Iowa.... take a look at other teams that have faced that type of schedule and you'll see a similar record......but I agree they are probably the best team in the West. Them's the breaks.
Iowa Hawkeyes – 7-3 (4-3 B1G)
Iowa needs all of the following to play out in order to win the B1G West:
Iowa is eliminated with a loss OR a Minnesota win OR a Wisconsin win over Purdue.
Iowa needs all of the following to play out in order to win the B1G West:
- Defeat Illinois and Nebraska
- Northwestern defeats Minnesota AND Purdue defeats Wisconsin
- Wisconsin defeats Minnesota
- Iowa 5-1
- Wisconsin 4-2
- Minnesota 3-3
Iowa is eliminated with a loss OR a Minnesota win OR a Wisconsin win over Purdue.
If this were true, it would be great. But its not. First step in a 3 team tiebreaker is head to head vs tied teams. In this scenario Wisconsin would be 2-0, Iowa 1-1, Minnesota 0-2.
Division record is the 2nd step.
RobHowe
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The following procedure will determine the representative from each division in the event of a tie:
(a) Example: East 1 is 2-0 in games between the tied teams with wins over East 2 and 3 - East 1 would be the representative.
2. The records of the three (or more) tied teams will be compared based on winning percentage within their division.
3. The records of the three (or more) teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of finish (4, 5, 6, and 7).
(a) When arriving at a group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team’s record against the collective tied teams as a group, rather than record against the individual teams.
4. The records of the three (or more) teams will be compared based on winning percentage against all common conference opponents.
LINK
- If two teams are tied, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative.
- If three or more teams are tied, steps 1 through 8 will be followed until a determination is made. If only two teams remain tied after any step (or sub-step), the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative. If three or more teams remain tied after any step, move to next step in tiebreaker with remaining tied teams.
(a) Example: East 1 is 2-0 in games between the tied teams with wins over East 2 and 3 - East 1 would be the representative.
2. The records of the three (or more) tied teams will be compared based on winning percentage within their division.
3. The records of the three (or more) teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of finish (4, 5, 6, and 7).
(a) When arriving at a group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team’s record against the collective tied teams as a group, rather than record against the individual teams.
4. The records of the three (or more) teams will be compared based on winning percentage against all common conference opponents.
LINK
SteveGarvey1
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Do we really believe that Minnesota and Wisconsin are going to lose to Northwestern and Purdue, respectively, anyway?
I think Iowa has had the best team in the West the last 2 years. Unfortunately their division record over that time period is 6-4.
