The New Kirk Myth

deanvogs

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I don't actually want the nickname to go away, as I think that is awesome. It is so much better than a Kirk 3.0 or something like that. Yet can't we just all agree that nothing has changed on the field? It is still about playing great defense, controlling the ball and field positions and running the ball. Mix in good special teams play, and this is the same recipe that the Old Kirk has used for the previous 16 years.
 
I don't actually want the nickname to go away, as I think that is awesome. It is so much better than a Kirk 3.0 or something like that. Yet can't we just all agree that nothing has changed on the field? It is still about playing great defense, controlling the ball and field positions and running the ball. Mix in good special teams play, and this is the same recipe that the Old Kirk has used for the previous 16 years.

Picking a game changer over a game manager is New Kirk territory. KOK basically had to kick and scream to get Kirk to start Stanzi over Christensen.

It's the same recipe, but Iowa has made some changes to the thought process.
 
"New Kirk" was most prominent early in the season... things has gradually regressed toward the mean (or the "old kirk"). How much is because of CJ's injury we don't know.

Ultimately I don't think it's Kirk 3.0 so much as a badly needed update to the 2.x version.
 
Kirk started the year trying to be new Kirk. He can just never talk himself into making a big decision in a game we might lose. 2 fake field goals in the first 2 games was new Kirk. Zero in the last 6 is old Kirk. He did go for it on 4th down deep in our own territory against Wisconsin I guess. That was the last I've seen of new Kirk. Running Canzeri into the ground because you are so afraid of playing our best playmaker at runningback was definitely old Kirk. I'm not saying I don't understand why he made his decision, I just don't agree with it.
 
Almost.

The 'new' man this year isn't Kirk. Its a guy they call CJ.

Did Kirk review the past few seasons and conclude some ' modifications ' were needed? Yes.

Kirk points to some little things, little details, and minor changes were needed. O.K. Got it.

However, I think a MAJOR change occurred. A new starting quarterback. Somehow, this much debated q.b. change came about and lots of folks have opined on this topic.

New Kirk? Maybe. Much the same in my eyes. Perhaps some of his assistants have had some key input.? Perhaps he took another serious look at q.b. position.?

Can IA continue winning if CJ can't play? Boy, that might be tough - even with others paying attention to all the 'small' details.
 
Iowa is 8-0! "New" Kirk must be making some correct decisions. So much angst over the 2nd half against Maryland. They were trying to protect CJB as much as possible. Iowa isn't going to score 60 points a game. They have been and will continue to win by playing great defense, special teams, running the ball, playing field position. He doesn't need to gamble as much now that he has faith in the defense.
 
Its not about KF so much as it is leadership at the QB and playmakers at RB. Everything else is pretty much the same.
 
Kirk started the year trying to be new Kirk. He can just never talk himself into making a big decision in a game we might lose. 2 fake field goals in the first 2 games was new Kirk. Zero in the last 6 is old Kirk. He did go for it on 4th down deep in our own territory against Wisconsin I guess. That was the last I've seen of new Kirk. Running Canzeri into the ground because you are so afraid of playing our best playmaker at runningback was definitely old Kirk. I'm not saying I don't understand why he made his decision, I just don't agree with it.

<<Running Canzeri into the ground>>

An NW tackle did that. The 43 carries against Illinois was the best move. And if you think Wadley is a better RB--right now--than Canzeri, I can't really help you with that poor eyesight.

But the way people talk/post, I wonder if we even have a staff. Sounds/looks to me like BOTH Kirks have been micro-managing each and every play.
 
I ragged on Kirk for not being aggressive enough or willing to change enough, but morning practices and Thursday day-offs were huge risks (that nobody really notices) and have paid off handsomely in my opinion.

I give him kudos for exploiting an inefficiency in the college football world. (I do expect many teams to follow suit in the coming year eroding this advantage. :()
 
He's also demonstrated a lot more aggressiveness at the end of halves (and end of game against Pitt.) Those little changes can make the difference between Ws and Ls.
 
I'll give you the 'ball control via run the ball / stop the run' philosophical dogma is still the foundation. However, there's no denying the evolution of his strategical approach to the game.

For starters, he's playing to win.
- The decisiveness to go for it: Past would have taken a delay of game and 2 timeouts before deciding to try to convert a 4th down. Followed by some "completely unexpected" attempt to run up the gut into the teeth of an 8 man box.
- The aggressiveness in going for it: He's willing to sacrifice points -- at least an attempt to get points -- to go for it. Not just in short-yardage but 4th and 6?
- He's using every second to try to score. Last week and earlier game (don't recall opponent) Hawks successfully get TD's as time ticks down at end of 1st half. Past they would've taken a knee and run out the clock.

He's playing the reward, rather than the risk.
- 4th down, inside opponents 40 was an automatic punt in the past. Now, he realizes the likelihood that the shift in field position is more than likely minimal (with a touchback punt), why not just go for the 1st down and sacrifice the few yards if you don't get it.

He's allowing his playmakers to play and make plays.
- He switched to CJ. It's not even a debate he should've played most of last year, for all the reasons that have been proven, this year. (Remember, after a blowout game last season, derKirkFer actually chastised CJ in his post game comments for making a play with his legs, late in the game. It was pathetic!)
- Wadley continues to play. In the past, the first game Daniels was healthy enough to go, Wadley was back on the bench to avoid the possibility of a fumble. Daniels had seniority, experience and was bigger, so presumed to be the better blitz-blocker and "gave them the best chance to win".

The conservative, risk-averse and often times, cowardly derKirkFer has transformed into New Kirk - a coach who gives his players votes of confidence that they can succeed, and puts them in strategical positions to do so, rather than restrict them with inherent schematic / dogmatic obstacles; a coach that gives them opportunities to compete and contribute, rather than punish them for what they lack in skill, experience or age.

I could care less if the nickname goes away. I just don't want the evolved attitude and competitiveness to go away.
 
awesome, so Canzeri is run into the ground because KF would not play a kid who up to that point had a fumbling problem?
 
One thing coach shelved was the hurry up offense that Davis wanted to put in.As far as play selection we are who we are and that's a run first pass second team.With CJ at the helm we can at least stretch the field with his arm.Were just doing a better job in all three phases of the game.Hats off to our punter,he was one of the weak links that had to improve and boy did he.The only controversy regarding the team now is are we getting enough recognition nationally and that's a good thing.This team is playing together like champions and for that Thank You Coach Ferentz.
 
OldKirk produced 5 ranked seasons out of 16. That's less than 33%. I vote for letting NewKirk get a chance to better that mark. If NewKirk is an illusion I vote for NewKoach getting a shot to lead the program.
 
OldKirk produced 5 ranked seasons out of 16. That's less than 33%. I vote for letting NewKirk get a chance to better that mark. If NewKirk is an illusion I vote for NewKoach getting a shot to lead the program.

well I'll give him credit, when his teams are ranked at the end of the year they're almost always ranked very high.
 

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