The Absurdity of a two team playoff for college FB

ChosenChildren

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Can you imagine college basketball if only two teams made it to the tournament?

And yet that is exactly how we determine a champion in college football.

It doesn't make sense.
 


The current political cobbled-together quagmire known as the BCS is long long overdue for a complete overhaul. I've said it a million times and will continue to do so.

It's still know as the "mythical championship", festering with "could care less" voting media and coaching personnel who control most of the direction the polls take. It's a beauty contest, decided by people who vote in the shadows.

Winning a true championship on the field has taken a back seat to the NCAA pig-trough known as the (bloated) bowl system, where 6-6 teams with sub .500 conference records pillow fight it out in December in memorable places such as Nashville TN to Mobile AL to a pizza bowl in Detroit.

There are currently 35 licensed college bowls, which just about maxes out the possible eligible teams (the four-year average of bowl-eligible squads is 71.8)

And don't forget about the 56 now-defunct bowls which litter the NCAA historical landscape.

If you're going to allow outsiders to vote for a possible champion, then limit their voting power to determine the top 8 teams and let the top 8 teams play for the championship on the field. Rotate the playoff sites among the top 5 major bowl sites. Keep all of the other minor bowls games you want...I could really care less and haven't watched any non-Big-10 minor bowl games in years and years.

Yup....fans couldn't go to every game. So choose which one or two you're going to go to. TV revenues generated will far exceed any gate generated anyway. And, you might be surprised how many people do travel to the bowl games given the 2-3 game options if your team keeps winning (different fans, not the same ones traveling each time).

Dinosaurs, Edsel, Betamax, New Coke, Yugo, Pepsi Crystal, XFL, BCS bowl series....fits right in it seems.
 


I think we go back to the old days of smoke filled rooms and back door deals.. Conference alignments in bowls ..... man that's where you had some lively talk....
no one talks much about the NFL it is too clean.... lets go back to our dirty roots
 


I think we go back to the old days of smoke filled rooms and back door deals.. Conference alignments in bowls ..... man that's where you had some lively talk....
no one talks much about the NFL it is too clean.... lets go back to our dirty roots

Sorry if I'm missing sarcasm or something (it's a little early lol). But he's not saying get rid of the BCS and not offering a solution. He's offering an alternative, one that's good. I don't want to go back to the way it was. But the BCS sucks, it's only second to last on sh*ttiest ways to determine a national champion.
 


One thing that I think everyone fails to grasp is that the biggest problem with the idea of a college football championship playoff system is the current make-up of the conferences.

But no one on this site or anywhere seems to understand this. Everybody wants to protect that with which they are familiar and then whine about how the system is messed up.

Okay, so I hear over and over how there should be an 8 team playoff. How the heck do you come up with an 8 team playoff when you have 6 automatic qualifiers - paricularly when qualifiing for say the Big East championship is way easier than the Big Ten championship? That gives you two at large spots. If you don't give them to TCU and Boise this year, all heck breaks loose. Woo hoo! That's a better system!

The only way college football can have a viable championship system is for there to be a radical overhaul of the leagues (that is why the superconference model made so much sense) and to force every D-1 team into a conference, if the want to be a part of the playoff system. If you can't make it into a super-conference or don't want to be there you don't belong in FBS.

I just think it is hysterical how everyone is so fixated on the end of the process when the beginning and the middle are messed up as well.

Finally, the next time I hear about people comparing basketball, where you can play 4 games in 4 nights, to football, where you need a week to recover, I will puke.
 
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While I don't disagree that the BCS is a pretty messed-up system, until such time that $$$$ < common sense, it's not likely to happen.
 


It would really be easy... 6 conference champs and 2 at larges. You have no business playing in the playoff unless you win your conference.
 


One thing that I think everyone fails to grasp is that the biggest problem with the idea of a college football championship playoff system is the current make-up of the conferences.

But no one on this site or anywhere seems to understand this. Everybody wants to protect that with which they are familiar and then whine about how the system is messed up.

Okay, so I hear over and over how there should be an 8 team playoff. How the heck do you come up with an 8 team playoff when you have 6 automatic qualifiers - paricularly when qualifiing for say the Big East championship is way easier than the Big Ten championship? That gives you two at large spots. If you don't give them to TCU and Boise this year, all heck breaks loose. Woo hoo! That's a better system!

The only way college football can have a viable championship system is for there to be a radical overhaul of the leagues (that is why the superconference model made so much sense) and to force every D-1 team into a conference, if the want to be a part of the playoff system. If you can't make it into a super-conference or don't want to be there you don't belong in FBS.

I just think it is hysterical how everyone is so fixated on the end of the process when the beginning and the middle are messed up as well.

Finally, the next time I hear about people comparing basketball, where you can play 4 games in 4 nights, to football, where you need a week to recover, I will puke.

Add to all of this that an 8 team play off system right now helps the Ohio State's, Texas, Florida's of the world but doesn't help the Iowa's and Wisconsins much at all.

In an 8 team play off system how many times out of the past 30 years would Iowa have qualified for the play offs? Maybe a couple? How long do even the best of fan bases stay interested and as invested when you see little or no chance year after year. Don't get me wrong I think Iowa fans would still be strong but not like what we have seen over the past 8 or 9 years.

What happens to the bowl games? If there is a playoff going on for the BIG8 of college football does anyone really pay attention to bowls anymore or do they turn out to be obsolete?

Then you get into play off expansion talks and this thing grows. Football is a rough sport. With the athletes that are playing the game today each body has only so many games in it. To think that a college team would have to play 16-17 games just to be crowned champions is silly. For what so we can all feel better about having a "true Cahmpion?" I don't think the current system is broken enough to justify that.

So what do you do about the 17 game season for the chamions each year? Do you shorten the regular season by one game for the rest of the country so no one has to play more than 15 or 16? Is that fair and just? how does that affect the budgets at schools like Wisconsin PSU Nebraska who will be on the outside looking in each year?

How about play off locations? Are they all played down south and out West and the northern teams and their fans have to travel to every play off game? Or do you expect the USC's, Texas, Florida's of the world to come up and play in Happy Valley, Pittsburgh, Columbus, Madison in November, December because OSU /Pitt ect earned homefield? How will that go over? Do you move all games to indoor stadiums and just make everyone travel?

Who among us will make it to all 4 play off games to cheer on our once in a lifetime Dream Hawkeye team plays in as we travel to Miami, New Orleans, LA and back to Orlando over the course of 5 weeks? Will there really be anyone there for the games? I can assure you that no SEC team will ever have to play in Kinnick stadium in December.

Will a play off really make things fair and crown a true champion? 8 invitees from 117 schools and we know for sure we invited the 8 best teams? An undefeated Boise State gets in ahead of a 1 loss Iowa team that was undefeated in the B10 but didn't have to play OSU? Or does a 1 loss Iowa team get in a 1 loss Auburn and undefeated Boise State team get left out?

CAAR is absolutely correct that to even begin to discuss a playoff system you need to look at super confrences. how does that effect iowa when our suber confrence has all of it's current members and adds for example Pitt, ND, Texas and maybe a hand full of other schools?

Man I tell you what. There are soooooo many things wrong with the idea of a playoff in my opinion. I don't think that things are perfect now but I sure as hell think that playoff system would reck college football as we know it. At least for very good but not elite football schools like Iowa it would. JMO sorry for the rant.
 


The current political cobbled-together quagmire known as the BCS is long long overdue for a complete overhaul. I've said it a million times and will continue to do so.

It's still know as the "mythical championship", festering with "could care less" voting media and coaching personnel who control most of the direction the polls take. It's a beauty contest, decided by people who vote in the shadows.

Winning a true championship on the field has taken a back seat to the NCAA pig-trough known as the (bloated) bowl system, where 6-6 teams with sub .500 conference records pillow fight it out in December in memorable places such as Nashville TN to Mobile AL to a pizza bowl in Detroit.

There are currently 35 licensed college bowls, which just about maxes out the possible eligible teams (the four-year average of bowl-eligible squads is 71.8)

And don't forget about the 56 now-defunct bowls which litter the NCAA historical landscape.

If you're going to allow outsiders to vote for a possible champion, then limit their voting power to determine the top 8 teams and let the top 8 teams play for the championship on the field. Rotate the playoff sites among the top 5 major bowl sites. Keep all of the other minor bowls games you want...I could really care less and haven't watched any non-Big-10 minor bowl games in years and years.

Yup....fans couldn't go to every game. So choose which one or two you're going to go to. TV revenues generated will far exceed any gate generated anyway. And, you might be surprised how many people do travel to the bowl games given the 2-3 game options if your team keeps winning (different fans, not the same ones traveling each time).

Dinosaurs, Edsel, Betamax, New Coke, Yugo, Pepsi Crystal, XFL, BCS bowl series....fits right in it seems.

I'm a college football fan and I approve of this post.
 




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