Staff visit to New England

1hawkifan

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I’m curious to see if anything new they learned will be implemented this year? Anyone have any thoughts on the staffs takeaway from visiting the Patriots?
 
One thing we may already be seeing may be that they recruit to the smaller, speedy type RBs with a little wiggle and pass-catching prowess and de-emphasize the big bruisers.

Although, they have their place in the running game, for sure.

If BF wanted to know what plays they ran so effectively with the 2 TEs, I think that he should visit Bill O’Brien, since IIRC, he was the OC at the time...

I am so hoping the game plan emphasizes these 2 TEs this year. Tremendous mismatches in speed if the DC chooses to cover them with a LB and if they bring in a nickel or dime package, audible to a smash-mouth play and run them over. I am also interested to see if they put Fant out wide, start him in motion and have him crack-back into their LBs with a full head of steam on running plays. De-cleat those rat-bastards!
 
I am also interested to see if they put Fant out wide, start him in motion and have him crack-back into their LBs with a full head of steam on running plays. De-cleat those rat-bastards!

I believe in high school and in the NFL the "crack back", defined as...

"a block against an opponent other than the runner, who does not see the blocker approaching"​

...is now illegal. Is that true in NCAA as well?

http://www.dumcoach.com/rules-of-the-game/crack-blocks-illegal-now/ (HS rules)
https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/ne...s-are-field-goal-leap-crackback-blocks-banned (NFL rules).

Here is a change in NCAA language instituted in 2016:

9. Blocking Below the Waist (Rule 9-1-6) FR-89 “a. Team A prior to a change of team possession:
1. The following Team A players may legally block below the waist inside the tackle box until they leave the tackle box or until the ball has left the tackle box: (a) players on the line of scrimmage completely inside the tackle box and (b) stationary backs who are at least partially inside the tackle box and at least partially inside the frame of the body of the second lineman from the snapper.

2. Except as in paragraph 3 (below), players not covered in paragraph 1 (above) while the ball is still in the tackle box, and all players after the ball has left the tackle box, are allowed to block below the waist only if the force of the initial contact is directed from the front. “From the front” is understood to mean within the clock-face region between “10 o’clock and 2 o’clock” forward of the player being blocked.

3. Players not covered in paragraph 1 (above) may not block below the waist toward the line through the original position of the ball at the snap until the ball carrier is clearly beyond the neutral zone. 4. Once the ball has left the tackle box a player may not block below the waist toward his own end line.”

Comments: This change simplifies and clarifies the rule. Note that the “low-blocking zone” is no longer defined, and everything is in reference to the tackle box. Also clarifies the rule regarding the crackback block.
 
I wasn’t talking about below the waist. Just because they don’t see you coming doesn’t make it illegal, does it? I say hit right in the ribs wth your shoulder pads (head up!).

I fear we hijacked this thread.

Anyone know any details on the Patriots visit?
 
I wasn’t talking about below the waist. Just because they don’t see you coming doesn’t make it illegal, does it? I say hit right in the ribs wth your shoulder pads (head up!).

I fear we hijacked this thread.

Anyone know any details on the Patriots visit?

Not to continue the hijacking, but that is EXACTLY what the high school rule says: blindside blocks are illegal, as defined as "a block against an opponent other than the runner, who does not see the blocker approaching." To make it legal, you have to just block with your hands, get in his way akin to setting a pick in basketball, or otherwise block him in a non-forceful manner.

The NFL rule linked above states that a player in motion may no longer crack block. I think the NFL may have a blindside block rule as well.

I included the NCAA rule wording above because I am not sure if it is the same thing. They specify "between 10 and 2", but that is not exactly the same as describing a defender who sees you coming. I honestly don't know the rules on crackback/blindside blocks in the NCAA.

Back to the point of the thread, I am all for moving Fant around as much as possible. I wouldn't be surprised to see him get double-digit carries this year, as well (like New England used to do with Hernandez).
 

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