Something to chew on in the offseason

[hawkeye12345]

Box scores.

Looking at the games from yesterday here is a list of teams and the # of players on each team that played > 10 minutes:

Team	#
Kansas	8
UCLA	8
Memphis	8
Virginia	8
Baylor	8
Creighton	8
ISU	7
Kentucky	7
Wichita St	7
Mercer	7
Gonzaga	7
Arizona	7
Stanford	6
SFA	6
Tennessee	6
North Carolina	5
Avg	7.06

Realistically, how many players do you think Fran would have played > 10 minutes?

In the last 6 games we played 9, 8, 8, 9, 8, 9 players respectively. If you expand the minutes played to players with > 15 minutes played in a game we look even more as an outcast.

The saddest part about all of this is that Fran stayed with this style of rotation all season.

 

[deanvogs]

Iowas team was different this year. I mean who should have lost/gained minutes? More Uthoff, less Basabe/McCabe? Less woody more Gabe? Less Oglesby? It isn't like Iowa had some player who was dominating and was kept on the bench. The depth Iowa had was really 6 role players (Ogs, McCabe, Uthoff, woody, Gabe, Clemons) and 3 30 min guys (Marble, White, Gesell).

 

[NEIChawk]

This is the only thing I'm chewin on in the off season...

 

[RushTogether]

I thought this thread was going to be about food...I'm sad.

 

[hawkeye12345]

I grilled some bacon wrapped scallops last night....delicious!

 

[okeefe4prez]

I grilled some bacon wrapped scallops last night....delicious!

Do you partially cook the bacon first? Bacon needs a little longer to cook than scallops and if you leave a scallop on the grill for even 2 seconds too long, you might as well just be eating a piece of rubber.

 

[okeefe4prez]

Wait, are you using a really thin cut of bacon? Maybe that explains it. What kind of bacon?

 

[ColumbusHawk]

It is pretty obvious. After Marble, the Hawks didn't have five or six players that by their play separated themselves from the rest of the pack. Teams don't play seven or eight players because that's all they want to play. Most teams have a clear top seven or eight players. Iowa sure didn't.

Look at all the various projections for playing time next year. While I may not agree with all of them, I can't say any of the posters are incorrect. The projections are like my drives, all over the place. No consistency whatsoever. In reality, there isn't one player on next year's roster that clearly has demonstrated that he should start.

 

[hawkeye12345]

Do you partially cook the bacon first? Bacon needs a little longer to cook than scallops and if you leave a scallop on the grill for even 2 seconds too long, you might as well just be eating a piece of rubber.

Yes. you cook the bacon, then you have to soak it in water to soften it up a little bit and then wrap it around the scallops. Once you get it wrapped and you have it tied up nice and tight with a rubberband, you go ahead and slap it on the grill for about 10 seconds each side..

 

[hawkeye12345]

It is pretty obvious. After Marble, the Hawks didn't have five or six players that by their play separated themselves from the rest of the pack. Teams don't play seven or eight players because that's all they want to play. Most teams have a clear top seven or eight players. Iowa sure didn't.

Look at all the various projections for playing time next year. While I may not agree with all of them, I can't say any of the posters are incorrect. The projections are like my drives, all over the place. No consistency whatsoever. In reality, there isn't one player on next year's roster that clearly has demonstrated that he should start.

You're smarter than this, no? Do you honestly believe that Kentucky, UCLA, Indiana, et al only have 5-8 legit D1 ballers on their roster at any given time? Of course not.

Their depth >>> Iowa depth. The falloff between their #1 and #11 is probably a small cliff but their #11 >>>>> Iowa #11.

The issue is that Fran for some inexplicable reason finds it necessary to play 9, 10, 11 deep in EVERY SINGLE game for really no justifiable reason. Fouls weren't an issue, injuries weren't an issue, certain players didn't bring some additional skill that the player on the floor didn't already possess ie Sharp Shooter, 7' gangly center, wicked tight man up defense.

By going to the bench as often as Fran did, it created a situation where:

1) Players on the floor were playing tentative.
2) Players couldn't find a rhythm
3) Groups of players couldn't find their identity.

 

[okeefe4prez]

Yes. you cook the bacon, then you have to soak it in water to soften it up a little bit and then wrap it around the scallops. Once you get it wrapped and you have it tied up nice and tight with a rubberband, you go ahead and slap it on the grill for about 10 seconds each side..

This makes no sense to me. Why would you put a rubber band on the grill? Do you only cook your scallops for 20 seconds? I typically cook my scallops with a dual skewer method - two in a row with two parallel skewers through them - 3-4 minutes on first side, 2 minutes on other side (depending on thickness). Why wouldn't you just cook the bacon to 3/4ths done and then wrap using the skewers and finish on the grill so you can get a little bacon fat commingled with the richness of the scallop?

 

[ibahawkeye]

Iowas team was different this year. I mean who should have lost/gained minutes? More Uthoff, less Basabe/McCabe? Less woody more Gabe? Less Oglesby? It isn't like Iowa had some player who was dominating and was kept on the bench. The depth Iowa had was really 6 role players (Ogs, McCabe, Uthoff, woody, Gabe, Clemons) and 3 30 min guys (Marble, White, Gesell).

Exactly why I think it was a talent issue. Fran had to try and figure out each night what he was going to get out of each guy because the talent wasn't there and it's like trying to put a puzzle together of consistently changing pieces.

Granted the burden is on Fran to bring enough talent to get the results that meet expectations.

 

[PalmettoHawkFan]

Exactly why I think it was a talent issue. Fran had to try and figure out each night what he was going to get out of each guy because the talent wasn't there and it's like trying to put a puzzle together of consistently changing pieces.

Granted the burden is on Fran to bring enough talent to get the results that meet expectations.

this.

people ragging on substitution patterns weren't seeing what fran was. when he saw something wasn't working he tried different combinations to get it to work. more often than not, it worked -- until the last 8 games when teams had iowa's number. a crew that is weak inside and can't shoot 3s isn't that hard to defend.

 

[tm3308]

Wait, are you using a really thin cut of bacon? Maybe that explains it. What kind of bacon?

If it's a really thin cut, then it's not bacon.

 

[ColumbusHawk]

You're smarter than this, no? Do you honestly believe that Kentucky, UCLA, Indiana, et al only have 5-8 legit D1 ballers on their roster at any given time? Of course not.

Their depth >>> Iowa depth. The falloff between their #1 and #11 is probably a small cliff but their #11 >>>>> Iowa #11.

The issue is that Fran for some inexplicable reason finds it necessary to play 9, 10, 11 deep in EVERY SINGLE game for really no justifiable reason. Fouls weren't an issue, injuries weren't an issue, certain players didn't bring some additional skill that the player on the floor didn't already possess ie Sharp Shooter, 7' gangly center, wicked tight man up defense.

By going to the bench as often as Fran did, it created a situation where:

1) Players on the floor were playing tentative.
2) Players couldn't find a rhythm
3) Groups of players couldn't find their identity.

I never said that. Most teams have seven to eight players that are clearly better than the rest of the roster. Iowa has a talent problem. At the schools you mentioned the 11th player may very well be better than Iowa's second best player. However, there is very little difference, if any, between players two through eleven on Iowa's roster.

 

[hawkforlife9]

To be fair, you can only play each player about 5 or 6 minutes if they are all going to get even minutes.

 

[Knight78]

this.

people ragging on substitution patterns weren't seeing what fran was. when he saw something wasn't working he tried different combinations to get it to work. more often than not, it worked -- until the last 8 games when teams had iowa's number. a crew that is weak inside and can't shoot 3s isn't that hard to defend.

I wouldn't say we were weak inside. I'd say we had absolutely no interest in throwing the ball to the inside players when they were posted up. Look at the Tennessee game; Woody got the ball inside and did great. But how many times this year did he get the ball on the block as frequently? Same can be said about EVERY Iowa big - they had position countless times and were ignored by the wings.

We all talked about Woody's great passing, and he is a really good passer, but he's mostly making those passes from the top of the key. He needs to get the ball on the block and make passes.

Nah, it wasn't that we were weak inside. It's that we ignored the inside.

 

[homes]

Yes. you cook the bacon, then you have to soak it in water to soften it up a little bit and then wrap it around the scallops. Once you get it wrapped and you have it tied up nice and tight with a rubberband, you go ahead and slap it on the grill for about 10 seconds each side..

Come on guys, save it for the Cooking Forum.