So, about the MSU players taking dives...

hawkfan1319

hawkfan1319

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Are we as a fanbase letting this one go? Im still furious about this and I think the Big Ten should be investigating these occurrences. Last year Cal pulled the same crap and was investigated by the Pac 12.
 
Dantonio told his players to fake injuries to stop our offensive momentum and so they could change personnel packages.
 
I'm curious what came of the Pac 12 investigation on Cal.

My guess... they questioned the players and they said they had legitimate injuries and were in pain and the conference had no evidence to prove otherwise so nothing came about??
 
Lesson from the wrestling fans.

An opponent stalling is only a problem if you are behind. If you don't want an opponent to stall, don't get behind. Its bush league. Its pathetic. But ultimately its a reflection of our failures. What are we supposed to be upset about?
 
Nothing did come about, but I'm guessing they wont fake injuries again to gain an advantage in a game for awhile.
 
hawkfan1319 said:
Dantonio told his players to fake injuries to stop our offensive momentum and so they could change personnel packages.
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fine. but if Iowa then goes out an executes, it's irrelevant and MSU just looks stupid.

there's a lot of things you can blame the loss on saturday on, but these "dives" should be pretty far down that list.
 
this a problem that you have very little if any, way of proving, unless the NCAA makes a rule governing injuries and how they are to be handled it will be used again and again,

lets face unless they change the rule that is in place about sitting one play out to; a player that is injured cannot go back in til the next change of possesion, we will have to live with the faking of injuries to stop the clock, or better yet change it to a team charged timeout, then after the timeouts are used up a delay of game penalty will be assessed and make it a worthwhile penalty of a automatic 15 yards , this alone will crack down on the obvious and other coaches will get madder than H@LL and put a stop to it
 
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The only real way to affect change in this would be to change the rule about how long a player has to sit out after he has sought medical attention. If a player had to sit out for the next five minutes of game time or for the rest of the current drive, I can assure you that fake injuries would go away and players would do everything they could to get to the sideline and not go down on the field.
 
thejumper5 said:
The only real way to affect change in this would be to change the rule about how long a player has to sit out after he has sought medical attention. If a player had to sit out for the next five minutes of game time or for the rest of the current drive, I can assure you that fake injuries would go away and players would do everything they could to get to the sideline and not go down on the field.
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But then you risk players avoiding medical attention so they can stay in the game.
 
thejumper5 said:
True, and that's probably why they won't change the rule, but I think that's the only real way to eliminate faking injuries.
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I thought about this after the NFL game in which the Giants were going down and I couldn't come up with a solution that didn't put players at risk but would eliminate the players from faking injuries to stall the game.

Maybe somebody else can...
 
I really think they should start being penalized if there is an injury timeout maybe in the last quarter of each half. The penalty could be something like 20 seconds will be run off/added and the opposing team gets to decide, would we rather have 20 secs added or run off.

Something like that, since the "Fainting Irish" scheme is making a big comeback in college football it's time to shut it down.
 
I don't think you can do much in the first injury. But, even to give these guys a benefit of the doubt and they were cramping up, you have to eliminate stopping the game over and over for the same players. Perhaps just say that at the second injury timeout you must sit for the rest of the quarter. If you are indeed cramping or have a reoccuring injury, that gives time to get hydrated or looked at. Basically the same as baseball pitchers, you get one free visit from the trainers, but after two you sit.
 
But the key is you need to be able to let players get off the field. If the hurry up isn't letting that, you will get people hurt.

Basically, give defenses a chance to get guys in and out of the game reasonably.

If you are smart, you could have the rotation work on a schedule.

However, I would make it contingent on the offense substituting.

Finally, if a player cannot get off the field, he has to be out for a specified series of plays or time.
 
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