Sites that show what Big 10 teams are losing to graduation?
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I have looked at a few of the teams that are on our schedule and this is what I came up with roughly:
Ohio State: They are going to lose a lot of their receiving talent, more than likely Dobbins, and most of their starting defense if not all of it. They lose the most I think.
Penn State: Their offense will look a lot of the same way as this year, but they do lose a lot on the defensive line which was their strength this year.
Wisconsin: They will lose a generational player in Taylor, a lot on the offensive line.
Minnesota: running back depth and Tyler Johnson offense, and pretty much their entire defensive line and linebackers.
After that, Northwestern will still suck. Illinois will lose some players and have a veteran team, Purdue gets a lot of talent back from injury and Nebraska loses a lot on defense. Michigan State will lose a lot of that defense which was the best unit on the team although overrated.
I think the schedule will be the most challenging part of our season next year. The back to back road games at Ohio State and Penn State will be a challenge, although they are both very winnable. There are also road games at Minnesota and Purdue that will be challenging, but if we have any sort of offensive chemistry we should win these. We have to get Wisconsin this year and its at home, along with Nebraska and Iowa State.
Ohio State: They are going to lose a lot of their receiving talent, more than likely Dobbins, and most of their starting defense if not all of it. They lose the most I think.
Penn State: Their offense will look a lot of the same way as this year, but they do lose a lot on the defensive line which was their strength this year.
Wisconsin: They will lose a generational player in Taylor, a lot on the offensive line.
Minnesota: running back depth and Tyler Johnson offense, and pretty much their entire defensive line and linebackers.
After that, Northwestern will still suck. Illinois will lose some players and have a veteran team, Purdue gets a lot of talent back from injury and Nebraska loses a lot on defense. Michigan State will lose a lot of that defense which was the best unit on the team although overrated.
I think the schedule will be the most challenging part of our season next year. The back to back road games at Ohio State and Penn State will be a challenge, although they are both very winnable. There are also road games at Minnesota and Purdue that will be challenging, but if we have any sort of offensive chemistry we should win these. We have to get Wisconsin this year and its at home, along with Nebraska and Iowa State.
Which makes sense with how defense heavy the b10 was this year. A good defense usually means a bunch of upper class men and or lot's of NFL talent.
In other words, I doubt the b10 as a whole will be as good defensively next year.
okeefe4prez
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The morons in the conference head office need to change the rules so the division winners are based first on division record, then on head to head, then on conference record. The fact that Minnesota would have won the division despite getting destroyed by Wisconsin had Iowa not held serve and beaten them is absurd. Wisconsin had to play at OSU.
OSU has lost one conference home game since the end of its disastrous 6-6 2011 season. One. In 8 years. MSU beat them by a field goal in horrible weather in November of 2015. In fact, if you throw out that fluke 2011 season for OSU and go all the way back to 2005, they have lost a grand total of 3 home games in conference play, the one to MSU, one to #3 PSU in 2008 (who subsequently lost at Iowa that year) and one to the Rose Bowl bound Illini team in 2007 when Locksley had landed all those stud recruits. So throwing out the outlier year of 2011, they have lost 3 conference home games in 14 freaking years. They just absolutely own the conference.
Can I click and "Dislike" a premise in a thread to say yes you are right osu is really tough and the rest of the league needs to catch up to osu. Besides PSU, OSU has had two or three major violations, institutional problems in the last 10-12 years which is just another reason I dont like them when they play conference games, of course except when they are playing one of our West Div rivals.
Thanks for the numbers backing up OSU being almost unbeatable at home. I knew they were tough out in the shoe, but I will be honest and didn't know they were that good there! Wow! Safe to say we wont be the favorite! LOL
okeefe4prez
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Unless they whiffed on that Day hire, it's going to be virtually impossible to catch OSU. They have too much state population and they are the only P5 team in the state. Their advantage is too large to overcome for any sustained period. They can be beaten in one off scenarios, but it is going to take a miracle to dislodge them from the top for an extended time. As crazy as it sounds, Maryland might actually have the best shot at it because Locksley recruits a different territory and seems to be able to land guys he has no business landing. If he finds good coordinators and stays out of their way and focuses on recruiting, they probably have a better shot than either Michigan or PSU at getting better than OSU for a period of a few years until Locksley gets fired or gets them put on probation.
Yes, but in all fairness, they don't lose often on the road either.
I agree that if you are going to have an east champ and a west champ, crossovers shouldn't matter, especially with the disparity in the divisions.
NikeHawk21
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Wisconsin doesn’t lose a ton of starters but the ones they lose are huge losses. Arguably their four best players when Taylor and Biadasz announce for the pros and including seniors Orr and Baun, who combined for 24 sacks. There is an outside chance they lose their left tackle Cole Van Lanen and/or their TE Jake Ferguson.
They’ll still be good on offense, particular WR, but I doubt they are as good of a team as this year.
Minnesota loses a lot on defense, especially if Winfield goes pro. I don’t see their offense performing as well next year either.
Every other team in the west Iowa has as much if not more talent. The question will be the schedule and how Iowa does in close games.
They’ll still be good on offense, particular WR, but I doubt they are as good of a team as this year.
Minnesota loses a lot on defense, especially if Winfield goes pro. I don’t see their offense performing as well next year either.
Every other team in the west Iowa has as much if not more talent. The question will be the schedule and how Iowa does in close games.
okeefe4prez
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Yeah, it's just absurd. Even if you include the 2011 because Fickell disaster in the analysis, the last time a team in the current Big Ten West won there was 2007 when Illinois just pulled a rabbit out of a hat. Before that, the last win by a West team was Wisconsin in the 2004 OSU rebuilding year when Troy Smith was a freshman. Before that, you have to go back to Tressel's first year for a bad OSU team, so basically from 2002 to the present, OSU has lost TWO home games to Big Ten West teams. Ugh. If you have a crossover game at the Shoe, you automatically start in a 1 game hole and it is totally unfair.
okeefe4prez
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Yeah, agreed, but Iowa, Purdue and Wisconsin have all beaten them on the road. It's still lopsided, but not as bad as at home. Columbus is pretty much a guaranteed L at this point. Camp Randall and Kinnick in late October or November are great venues and are more like 10 point difference makers rather than the standard 3.
NikeHawk21
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Just read an article that three Penn State underclassmen are considering leaving early including KJ Hamler. I think their top DE is for sure going early too and wasn’t even mentioned. If they lose a couple of those guys along with the expected losses, they could take a big step back on D, and Hamler was by far their best offensive playmaker.
Michigan State loses a lot on defense, which was their strength this year.
Ohio State loses a good deal but for reasons mentioned in this thread I’m not considering a win there to be even a possibility.
Michigan State loses a lot on defense, which was their strength this year.
Ohio State loses a good deal but for reasons mentioned in this thread I’m not considering a win there to be even a possibility.
According to USA Today, Gross-Motas has already declared for the draft.
Winfield is a 4th year SO and most of the media up there are convinced he's leaving.
And Wisconsin looks to finally be losing a couple of major impact players early. Its good to see some other West teams besides Iowa losing guys. If Winfield does go pro, that will 8 starters on D to replace for Minnesota. And they also have a CB with all of the measurables the NFL loves. But he's expected to return.
