Scouting Michigan - Every offensive snap - HD YouTube Video

briankaldenberg

briankaldenberg

Well-Known Member
Hitting him isn't going to matter. This isn't Stanzi folks. He's like a running back. He's good at avoiding big hits. He's much more durable than your typical 6'4 pocket passer quarterback. His last injury had nothing really to do with getting hit. He hurt himself running so fast that when his knee hit the ground he bruised his knee lol.

We just need to tackle him. Trying to take his head of every play will just end up with him on ESPN running all over us.

Also if they are 6-0 the Big 10 will be in their camp, not ours. Much like the refs were in our camp as we navigated further through the Big 10 schedule last year unscathed. We can't get any of those fantom helmet to helmets. If Michigan is 6-0 the Big 10 would much rather have them win this game than us as would the media.

We just need to tackle him and limit his 15+ yard gashes. He's averaging almost a 1st down per carry. I don't care how good our defense is I bet he's going to average 4+ yards per carry on us. We just need to force 3rd downs and win 50% of them.

Much can be said about how we have two weeks to prepare. Michigan St isn't a whole lot different schematically from Iowa though folks. Michigan is preparing for much of what they'll do against Iowa and they get to practice it Live a week before.

Here's a nice video of every snap of Michigan's offense 2010 in Hi-Def.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9G2VHsWB3M"]YouTube - Michigan Offense vs. Notre Dame 2010 Every Snap[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93lJ0nyl_7k"]YouTube - Michigan Offense vs. UConn 2010 Every Snap[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rogo8bKeJA4&feature=related"]YouTube - Michigan Offense vs. UMass 2010 Every Snap[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0COGN2a61E[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbmP2eMGjq0[/ame]
 
Last edited:
Wow way to go with the research Kaldenberg. I didnt watch all of these youtubes I have watched the first two but I have seen almost all of their games. I will say his passing is due to not playing a good defense. As for DRobs rushing: he will shake the first guy almost every time. We saw that last year at Iowa. If we get multiple guys to him he will not hurt us. I think Iowa may be the first maybe the only team to really contain him. A lot of Hawks to the ball = a bad day for michigan and atleast a two touchdown win. I say something like 31-14, but I will probaly change my mind after saturday.
 
Stay at home, close down the lanes, don't over-commit. The ends need to have their hands up coming around on contain; he doesn't throw the ball that high.
 
Let's say this scenerio plays out. Michigan looks impressive against State and wins by 10+. We move up 1 spot in our bye week to #14 and Michigan jumps us to #13.

We put on an absolutely dominate defensive performance. Holding them to under 300 total yards (under 150 rushing) and winning like 31-10 at the Big House. How far does that propel us up the rankings?

I think if Arizona is still unbeaten (good chance) it'd move us back into the top 10. Possible into the top 8 if a few teams lose.
 
Michigan State tends to blitz much more than we do (Jones is an excellent blitzer). But even if MSU ran the EXACT same schemes as us, what's to prepare for? We run vanilla schemes, everybody knows what you have to do to beat us, and if you as a coach haven't figured it out by now, your name is probably Ron Zook.

On the flip side, Denard Robinson is one of those once in a decade kind of players. I didn't get to see him play, but I've got guess that Robinson is a lot like Mike Vick was at VT. I compared him to Randel El (only faster) earlier, but I'm guessing that Vick is actually the very best comparison. We've not seen a guy like that before.

So the "extra" week doesn't really do that much for Michigan, because they should already know how to beat our defense. But the extra week for us is crucial, as we're preparing for a player the likes of which we've not faced for AT LEAST 10 years, if at all.
 
HITTING HIM WILL MATTER!!! Saying it won't honestly just doesn't make much sense to me... :confused:

Iowa does tackle. Called fundamentals of which in case you've been living under a rock KF teaches very well.

You make it sound as if Denard is untouchable. I'm willing to bet you he is not.
 
HawkPrdatr40 said:
HITTING HIM WILL MATTER!!! Saying it won't honestly just doesn't make much sense to me... :confused:

Iowa does tackle. Called fundamentals of which in case you've been living under a rock KF teaches very well.

You make it sound as if Denard is untouchable. I'm willing to bet you he is not.
Click to expand...

I think maybe what Kaldenberg meant was that it is extremely difficult to get the kinds of hits on him that do matter. He's very good at avoiding the big hits (the ones that would make a difference). Just getting brought down isn't going to affect his game in the slightest.

And our tackling hasn't looked that great at times this year, either (see: Royster breaking like 11 tackles on two runs in the second half). Greenwood has missed a couple when he came up and just put a shoulder into a guy that was being held onto by another defender. Because Brett didn't wrap up, all he did was knock the ballcarrier free from the first defender. Sash has had a play or two like that this year as well.
 
Last edited:
tm3308 said:
I think maybe what Kaldenberg meant was that it is extremely difficult to get the kinds of hits on him that do matter. He's very good at avoiding the big hits (the ones that would make a difference). Just getting brought down isn't going to affect his game in the slightest.
Click to expand...

Sorry not buying it. If he is on the field with ball in hand. He will get hit.. :)
 
HawkPrdatr40 said:
HITTING HIM WILL MATTER!!! Saying it won't honestly just doesn't make much sense to me... :confused:

Iowa does tackle. Called fundamentals of which in case you've been living under a rock KF teaches very well.

You make it sound as if Denard is untouchable. I'm willing to bet you he is not.
Click to expand...

The tackling out of our back 7 has not been nearly as crisp this year as we've become accustomed to... certainly not looking like it did last year. And you're not comprehending what I am saying...

He isn't going to get rattled like other QB's do after taking a few hits. He's carried the ball enough this year. He carries the ball almost as much as Robinson has carried the ball for us. Maybe more? I'm not going to go and look that stat up.

Of coarse a huge hit, concussion style hit will matter, but him taking some big ones that any other running back would take over the course of a game isn't going to effect him much... He basically is a running back.

Often times defenders lose fundamentals when they see a quarterback running. They go for the knockout blow. Bottom line is I'd rather see ZERO big hits on Robinson if it means no runs over 20 yards from him all afternoon.
 
Last edited:
HawkPrdatr40 said:
Sorry not buying it. If he is on the field with ball in hand. He will get hit.. :)
Click to expand...

I wouldn't expect the big hits though. If he get caught up by the ankle and AC or Sash is closing in on him, he will go down before they get there, and live to fight another day. Chris Johnson does that kind of thing as well. He's great at avoiding the bonecrushers.
 
briankaldenberg said:
The tackling out of our back 7 has not been nearly as crisp this year as we've become accustomed to... certainly not looking like it did last year.
Click to expand...


Let me say it again.. He will get hit. If he is running with the football against Iowa he will get hit.. Trust me!!
 
At this level trust no player is that durable. Nobody!!

If Denard Robinson last the season than kudo's to him. However he is way to involved in Michigan's offense to be untouchable. Denard will get laid out many times this upcoming season. The question is does he get up everytime.
 
HawkPrdatr40 said:
Of course.. However to say he is great at avoiding the big hits is delusional as well. It's going to happen.
Click to expand...

Not delusional. He is great at avoiding hits. Watch the videos above. He has a great feel for things. Watch before speaking.

Being great at avoiding Big Hits doesn't mean you'll "NEVER" take a big hit.

Law school wouldn't be your strong point HawkPrdatr40. I mean some of the premises you use to back up your arguments are almost as bad as using a visual encounter of someone on a moped as evidence they'll be starting by mid-season.
 
Last edited:
briankaldenberg said:
Not delusional. He is great at avoiding hits. Watch the videos above. He has a great feel for things. Watch before speaking.

Being great at avoiding Big Hits doesn't mean you'll "NEVER" take a big hit.

Law school wouldn't be your strong point HawkPrdatr40. I mean some of the premises you use to back up your arguments are almost as bad as using a visual encounter of someone on a moped as evidence they'll be starting by mid-season.
Click to expand...


Level of competition is going up this weekend. Let's see how he fairs.
 
From what I saw it looked like even Notre Dame was able to figure out how to stop Michigan's offense aka Denard Robinson. They just didn't have to talent/skill/discipline to execute.

I also saw them get a few pretty decent hits on him.

I felt a lot confident after watching that game.

Seems to me it is a lot of quick passes(that were for the most part ineffective).
They seem to rely heavily on yards after the catch and Denard breaking big runs.
If we can stay disciplined we should not have too many problems in my opinion.

Just my take on it.

GO HAWKS!
 
briankaldenberg said:
Not delusional. He is great at avoiding hits. Watch the videos above. He has a great feel for things. Watch before speaking.

Being great at avoiding Big Hits doesn't mean you'll "NEVER" take a big hit.

Law school wouldn't be your strong point HawkPrdatr40. I mean some of the premises you use to back up your arguments are almost as bad as using a visual encounter of someone on a moped as evidence they'll be starting by mid-season.
Click to expand...

'watch before speaking'.

I'd say your a DBag, but then again, I'll just say 'OK mom', and call it a night.
 
imported_ankle23 said:
'watch before speaking'.

I'd say your a DBag, but then again, I'll just say 'OK mom', and call it a night.
Click to expand...

It's not exactly unreasonable to expect you to watch the videos before drawing conclusions. Robinson hasn't taken very many real hits. Chris Johnson doesn't take big hits, either, at least not like most running backs. He gets down before the bonecrushing hit gets to him, or slips around so that the impact is minimized. He even leaves his feet just before contact sometimes to avoid knee injuries.

We might get a shot or two on him, maybe more. But I'm certainly not going to kick back and say: we're just gonna beat him to a pulp.
 
Why does everyone think that only big hits can hurt someone? Try having Clayborn, Klug, Daniels, Ballard, or Binns LAND on you during a tackle and tell me that doesn't affect him.

This isn't much different in philosophy than playing GT. Stay with your assignment, and trust your teammates to do the same. The big plays come when the D breaks down, and doesn't play assignment football. It actually might be easier, as you ONLY need to focus on Denard, as it isn't as if they can run the ball with the RB. Denard will get his yards, but if we keep him to 200 yd. passing and 100 rushing, we win as nobody else get any yardage on their team.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Latest posts

Share this page

Top