Schwartz: College Football Power Shift

[RobHowe]

HN columnist David Schwartz believes players should retain the right to use social media how they see fit, not their coaches:

https://www.hawkeyenation.com/football/schwartz-college-football-power-shift

 

[HawkeyeWalker]

Im not against the athletes having social media. They have a platform and many could use it for good. But it should be a privilege, not a right. Post away, but be smart.

It's not about "protecting rather than teaching", imo, that silly.

Just my opinion, but I find this a strange article. He cherry picks a few mature players to make his point....but...like I said, they are the examples of earning the privilege.

There are likely many more examples of reason some kids should not have the privilege, than not.

Again, I'm not for a arbitrary ban on all social media, but I'm still for coaches having control. Maybe I'm getting too old and crusty though.

Btw, power is not a commodity.

 

[homes]

I thought he was going to write about the efficacy of the NLRBs decision, but that's another discussion.

As far as the use of social media, it's not a matter of whether a player will state something stupid, outrageous or offensive, it's a matter of when it will happen. Ban or not ban, it doesn't matter to me, but I don't have any problem with Ferentz shutting it down. He's not making it possible to start a fire, versus figuring out ways to put it out.

 

[trj]

As a Steeler fan I understand why coaches are so leery of social media by going through the recent Antonio Brown idiocy. How a man in his late 20's could lack so much self awareness is beyond me. Anyway, I realize it is not a world I grew up in so I try to be open minded about this stuff. Like most things I think 90% of people get it, it is the 10% who don't that screws everything up.

 

[thetrza]

I just look at what streaming video and being able to capture so much of what goes on and share it opens up so many things for the future branding and marketing opportunities.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

I look at this almost the same way I do the no visit policy in a way. Coaches have the 'right' to do it and if the kid agrees to either commit or come then by defacto they are agreeing to abide by such policies. It'd be like a Minnesota Viking deciding they don't want to wear the right colored shoes. Yet it's a part of their uniform. Once you agree to join up then you sign up for all it entails. There's nothing hidden in fine print here. You are in charge of what you agree to. We can all change our minds on things after the fact sure. But by in doing so you can't get mad if others others don't. It's you then that needs to do the adjusting based on your initial commitment. Not the other way around.

 

[trj]

I just look at what streaming video and being able to capture so much of what goes on and share it opens up so many things for the future branding and marketing opportunities.

There's a line with that. Having kids in their late teens, early 20's figuring out where that line is that's scary enough. A lot of grown ups can't figure out where that line is.

 

[washtu401]

I like the policies we have at Iowa and see no reason for a change like this. Just more regulation and rules that have nothing to do with the sport, whatever it might be.

 

[deanvogs]

Which is good, because today’s young adults radiate brilliance. They pick apart the flaws of mainstream society with brutal precision. They see how ridiculous we have become and call out our foolishness and shame us into becoming better human beings.

Most students act like 15 year old children (they always have, and they always will). They are coddled and pampered and act like their view of the world is the only view of the world. Nothing is dumber than a college student who has yet to walk through the real world, yet feels like they can pontificate and lecture others who have on how they should be, and what they should think. They are some of the least tolerant and the least informed people on the planet.

 

[thetrza]

I was thinking more like Ferentz personally or the whole team turning into instagram or snapchat superstars with private jets and pictures of girls with machine guns and sponsored posts where they are relaxing on a couch with a luxury watch prominently featured. We can either be a proactive solution that nextifies the brand platform or wind up becoming an obsolete social network like friendster, tidal, or nebraska football.

 

[OkstHawk]

Which is good, because today’s young adults radiate brilliance. They pick apart the flaws of mainstream society with brutal precision. They see how ridiculous we have become and call out our foolishness and shame us into becoming better human beings.

Most students act like 15 year old children (they always have, and they always will). They are coddled and pampered and act like their view of the world is the only view of the world. Nothing is dumber than a college student who has yet to walk through the real world, yet feels like they can pontificate and lecture others who have on how they should be, and what they should think. They are some of the least tolerant and the least informed people on the planet.

Back in your day I bet kids were so much better. The whole notion that today's kids are so much worse than prior generations has been happening for decades. It's old, tired and an argument that stupid people make because they are so out of touch with today's youth.

 

[guffus]

Which is good, because today’s young adults radiate brilliance. They pick apart the flaws of mainstream society with brutal precision. They see how ridiculous we have become and call out our foolishness and shame us into becoming better human beings.

Most students act like 15 year old children (they always have, and they always will). They are coddled and pampered and act like their view of the world is the only view of the world. Nothing is dumber than a college student who has yet to walk through the real world, yet feels like they can pontificate and lecture others who have on how they should be, and what they should think. They are some of the least tolerant and the least informed people on the planet.

some good thoughts. I believe the same thing some times can be said of grown adults, and even some of our presidental candidates, on both sides of the political spectrum.

 

[deanvogs]

Back in your day I bet kids were so much better. The whole notion that today's kids are so much worse than prior generations has been happening for decades. It's old, tired and an argument that stupid people make because they are so out of touch with today's youth.

Most students act like 15 year old children (they always have, and they always will).

Maybe next time actually read a post.

Young people are great, don't get me wrong. Yet most young people think they have all the answers to things they have never lived or experienced in life.

 

[SteveGarvey1]

Student athletes have the constitutional right to express themselves via social media. But I think the use of sm by them withers the concept of team because it points more to the individual and what he thinks about political and social stuff.

Marketing-wise, this might become a disaster. We saw NFL ratings fall with Kaepernick and all he did regarding disrespecting the anthem and the flag and we'll probably see the same thing here, with student athletes opining about issues like whenever there is an unfortunate police shooting, supposed white privilege, LGBT issues, etc. This turns off middle America which means less fannies in seats, less eyeballs on screens, and eventually less money in pockets. Republicans and Trump voters watch college sports as well and we know 97% of the student athletes will post stuff against their values. This will hurt the brands of NCAA football and basketball.

This isn't a post on who is right or wrong on political issues, just one on the reality of student athletes using social media to express their opinions and the damaging effects it has/will have.

 

[OkstHawk]

And on top of that these students are being taught, many times, by people who have no real world experience as well - just book knowledge. For example, a professor teaching a business course who has never owned let alone managed a private enterprise.

All of my business professors had private industry experience. Teaching is a noble profession and to see someone denigrate higher education that is oblivious to the facts about who teaches college courses is troubling.

 

[OkstHawk]

Maybe next time actually read a post.

Young people are great, don't get me wrong. Yet most young people think they have all the answers to things they have never lived or experienced in life.

Lol, ironic statement given your posts on this site. Hi pot, meet kettle.

 

[deanvogs]

All of my business professors had private industry experience. Teaching is a noble profession and to see someone denigrate higher education that is oblivious to the facts about who teaches college courses is troubling.

I guess you and I have a different idea of what is "noble". Being a college professor and getting nearly a 100K a year to teach a few college courses, doesn't really scream of "nobility" to me.

 

[BVHawk95]

Back in your day I bet kids were so much better. The whole notion that today's kids are so much worse than prior generations has been happening for decades. It's old, tired and an argument that stupid people make because they are so out of touch with today's youth.

Every generation is full of idiots, this one is no exception. They do some good with their social awareness, but they also blow small things way out of proportion and a lot of college students are being taught that if they don't get their way, they can throw a tantrum and get what they want.

All of my business professors had private industry experience. Teaching is a noble profession and to see someone denigrate higher education that is oblivious to the facts about who teaches college courses is troubling.

One person's experience doesn't negate many others. Teaching might be a noble profession, but not all teachers are noble. I've met a few professors who let bias cloud their judgement and teach their views as fact, on both sides of the spectrum.

 

[thetrza]

I sent a message to the Iowa Athletic Director using the Yo! app then I connected with the department on peach before getting their attention on yik yak. Now I am sure the players will be on facebook live and slack this fall.

 

[OkstHawk]

I guess you and I have a different idea of what is "noble". Being a college professor and getting nearly a 100K a year to teach a few college courses, doesn't really scream of "nobility" to me.

And the reason they get that money is because the business school brings in a boat load in donations from alums who apparently think they got a good education. That's also pretty cheap when you consider most business professors can walk into the private sector and make twice that amount. But I guess for university employees we should cap salaries huh? Sounds pretty anti-free market from the lady who got her undies in a pinch about the big bad liberal media.