Riding

Hawks4life11

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I know I am a little late on this but I have been busy. I noticed at the IC duals that our guys all seemed to be very good riders, but ineffective. We could keep them down as long as we wanted but couldnt seem to turn them much. Anyone else notice this or am I just looking too into it? I didn't see them yesterday so maybe it was different.
 


I've noticed that we don't get back points as often as I'd like to see. Isn't that why they brought in Frayer last year? Wasn't he a guy who was known as someone who could turn opponents?
Also, while we're talking, how are we doing on takedowns this year?
 


Jared Frayer hasn't been on staff for two years.

And the reason we looked so good riding is probably due to our opponents being far inferior.
 


I've actually talked about this alot with a freind of mine. What is interesting is that the staff is made up of blanket riders. Terry, Tom, Mike, they all rode blanket ride, pinning the arm on the back alot of forward pressure. And they were all successful with it, and they teach it well (example: metcalf, daniel dennis, etc)

BUT when you don't ride legs, and don't crab ride it is difficult to teach it because it is such a "feel" style of wrestling. Thats why I thought retaining Mark Perry as an assistant (perry was very open about his desire to stay and coach in iowa) would have been a great compliment as he would bring something different to the table. He rode legs, he crab rode, he was great sitting the corner and funking on counter shots. These are all things the current staff didn't do as wrestlers. In no way am I saying the staff doesn't know what their doing or doesnt know how to teach these things.

I'm just saying that while the staff does a great job of recruiting people who wrestle their style, I have to wonder if a great wrestler who wrestles a different style wouldn't be dissuaded from coming based on the style of the coaching staff. I mean while the coaching staff prefers to recruit someone with Daniel Dennis' style. They did pretty well with a kid like Jay Borschal who wrestles a different style. I just would hate to see the team lose a great recruit because he wrestles a different style for any reason.
 


And the reason we looked so good riding is probably due to our opponents being far inferior.

You really have a difficult time figuring out the main idea of a thread don't you? The point of the thread is that we're not getting back points/pins against those inferior opponents.
 


Jared Frayer hasn't been on staff for two years.

And the reason we looked so good riding is probably due to our opponents being far inferior.

You really have a difficult time figuring out the main idea of a thread don't you? The point of the thread is that we're not getting back points/pins against those inferior opponents.

Spooner was just responding to Hawk4Life's comment about this year's team having good riding abilities. Has it been two years since Frayer left? Wow, time passes quickly.

But the point stands: if we can't rack up back points, we won't win many bonus points in our stronger weights, or against the weak spots in our opponent's otherwise strong line-ups.
Friday's matchup against ISU may tell us how much progress has been made.
 


You really have a difficult time figuring out the main idea of a thread don't you? The point of the thread is that we're not getting back points/pins against those inferior opponents.

This was my point exactly. We were wrestling people we were supposed to kill, I know that. I just noticed that we could take them down almost at will, get out from bottom at will, ride them at will, yet we couldn't turn them worth a crap. Why is that? Are they just training to ride? Did the coaches want them to work on riding? Did they want the matches to last so they could get some practice/conditioning? Or is it that we just aren't good at turning guys? If the last one is the case and we keep riding guys like we were, I see a lot of stalling calls happening this year.
 






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