Purdue - Final Thoughts

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WinOneThisCentury

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Ok...I know everyone feels that game was one we gifted to a less talented team. I have a couple of thoughts that have kind of bothered me after watching the game again.

Petras - He was crazy nervous starting that game. Wow...you could tell he couldn't calm himself and was anxious to throw everything quick and hard. The cool thing is that he settled down and showed what he can do. He was really good in the second and much of the third quarter. This dude is going to be really good. My take is that he was hurt the most by not having a few non-conference cupcakes to cut his teeth on.

Defense - Disappointing - you can't let a QB sit back there. Phil brought more blitz packages in the first half than the second it seemed. Strange. The linebacker and DE play in the run game wasn't good. You have to hit a dude like that below the waist.

Officiating - They didn't cost us the game...Iowa cost themselves the game. You can't miss that many plays and guys wide open...and then have over 100 yards in penalties...and then turn the ball over in the red zone twice. That being said...several holding calls on Golston weren't called. The final play...that dude has his hand grabbing Ragaini's shoulder pad for 10 full yards...then when the ball arrives...he yanks to pull himself in position? How in the hell is that not pass interference? The irony is that we lost on that same call the last time we were in that stadium. They called it on us. Purdue has a serious home field advantage.
 
WinOneThisCentury said:
Ok...I know everyone feels that game was one we gifted to a less talented team. I have a couple of thoughts that have kind of bothered me after watching the game again.

Petras - He was crazy nervous starting that game. Wow...you could tell he couldn't calm himself and was anxious to throw everything quick and hard. The cool thing is that he settled down and showed what he can do. He was really good in the second and much of the third quarter. This dude is going to be really good. My take is that he was hurt the most by not having a few non-conference cupcakes to cut his teeth on.

Defense - Disappointing - you can't let a QB sit back there. Phil brought more blitz packages in the first half than the second it seemed. Strange. The linebacker and DE play in the run game wasn't good. You have to hit a dude like that below the waist.

Officiating - They didn't cost us the game...Iowa cost themselves the game. You can't miss that many plays and guys wide open...and then have over 100 yards in penalties...and then turn the ball over in the red zone twice. That being said...several holding calls on Golston weren't called. The final play...that dude has his hand grabbing Ragaini's shoulder pad for 10 full yards...then when the ball arrives...he yanks to pull himself in position? How in the hell is that not pass interference? The irony is that we lost on that same call the last time we were in that stadium. They called it on us. Purdue has a serious home field advantage.
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I agree with pretty much all of this. It seems logical right? New QBs on the road you're just going to get a mixed bag of success. I'm just happy he wasn't throwing interceptions all over the place. He avoided that anyway. For a day 1 game 1 outting thrown right in the fire with no cupcake of a tune up before it that's outting by Petras shoulda been more expected then not.

The D was frustratingly not that great. If we can't get pressure and move a slow footed non-athletic QB off his spot then that doesn't bode well going forward.

The penalties were a huge issue. I mean how else can a team gain 460 yards & only put up 20 pts? It's not like we missed FGs. That took the 2 TOs and penalties backing us up to kill drives to do that. That's how you make those numbers make any sense. So hopefully some of those get ironed out. And as you mentioned calling the obvious ones against them sure wouldn't hurt...
 
WinOneThisCentury said:
Ok...I know everyone feels that game was one we gifted to a less talented team. I have a couple of thoughts that have kind of bothered me after watching the game again.

Petras - He was crazy nervous starting that game. Wow...you could tell he couldn't calm himself and was anxious to throw everything quick and hard. The cool thing is that he settled down and showed what he can do. He was really good in the second and much of the third quarter. This dude is going to be really good. My take is that he was hurt the most by not having a few non-conference cupcakes to cut his teeth on.

Defense - Disappointing - you can't let a QB sit back there. Phil brought more blitz packages in the first half than the second it seemed. Strange. The linebacker and DE play in the run game wasn't good. You have to hit a dude like that below the waist.

Officiating - They didn't cost us the game...Iowa cost themselves the game. You can't miss that many plays and guys wide open...and then have over 100 yards in penalties...and then turn the ball over in the red zone twice. That being said...several holding calls on Golston weren't called. The final play...that dude has his hand grabbing Ragaini's shoulder pad for 10 full yards...then when the ball arrives...he yanks to pull himself in position? How in the hell is that not pass interference? The irony is that we lost that same call the last time we were in that stadium. They called it on us. Purdue has a serious home field advantage.
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The defense was a mixed bag. They got some INT's. Some sacks. But most of the time Purdue had too much time to pass the ball. Part of that is Iowa's gap/lane defense pass rush. Not saying that's bad, it's done to keep the QB in the shrinking pocket. Purdue is a passing team, they will burn teams with the pass. What was scary is in the second half they developed a running game. That was a problem for Iowa. Iowa secondary was good on plays not so good on others but the lack of strong linebackers hurt.

Your right officiating didn't cost Iowa the game. Giving the success Purdue was having with the passing attack and the throw in the second half rushing things were not looking good for Iowa. But that was a clear interference penalty.

The offense overall looked good. The running game looked good for a change. But Purdue isn't known for their defense. So we can't take that thought too far. The passing game was good. But not great. But again. I think we have a QB. That's something we only speculated on before the game. Lot of potential with Petras. The offensive line killed with the dead ball penalties. Fumbles. Not good anytime.
Overall an opening game, with this off season, against a good solid opponent. There's a lot of potential.
 
HawkeyeDenis said:
What was scary is in the second half they developed a running game. That was a problem for Iowa. Iowa secondary was good on plays not so good on others but the lack of strong linebackers hurt.

Overall an opening game, with this off season, against a good solid opponent. There's a lot of potential.
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Agree, and the defensive line was gassed in the second half, COVID related practice changes definitely hurt their conditioning, which has been the case throughout college football. I suspect it also has something to do with all the injuries in the NFL this year, though I haven’t crunched the numbers to confirm that is actually worse than usual.
 
Honestly...i can't believe people aren't more pissed about that last play...you can't get a more egregious pass interference play. I'm not saying Iowa would have gone down and scored...but 1st and ten in plus territory with a 1:20 on the clock. I'm just not sure how that call is missed. I've watched the play a few times now...he had his hand on the shoulder pad with the fingers inside the pad for 10 full yards prior to the ball arriving.

I can't believe KF and team haven't said anything. I'm sure it went to the league office.
 
I was encouraged by the running game and variety of plays on offense and ways to get guys the ball.

I was a bit disappointed that Petras did not show more given that we've heard so much about him.

D-line looks slow and lacks pass rush but should stop the run.

One of the greatest liabilities is an inexperienced 5th year senior who finally gets on the field in his last year.

ISM was a no show, hope he recommits.

I hope Brian and Kirk start thinking in terms of scoring a lot of points rather than simply possessing the ball.
 
NCHawker said:
One of the greatest liabilities is an inexperienced 5th year senior who finally gets on the field in his last year.
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This was Aaron Mends. Physical beast, popular in the locker room by all accounts, and I believe was a multi year guy on the leadership[ group. But when his time finally came he couldn't put it together mentally. Always seemed to be wrong place/wrong time and got pulled early.

There's zero substitute for actual game time. And it has to suck knowing that several years of training and hard work after you played your last high school game, you finally get to see the field and realize you can't hack it strictly because of inexperience at the big time level...

Mends was a casualty of coming up at the same time as guys like Jewell, Niemann, Bower, and Welch, all of whom have been written checks to play football. There was never an opportunity as an underclassmen for even a tiny bit of valuable field time to adjust to the speed of B1G linebacking.
 
WinOneThisCentury said:
Honestly...i can't believe people aren't more pissed about that last play...you can't get a more egregious pass interference play.
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Getting pissed does nothing. Yes, it was a terrible call. Big deal. We've gotten screwed so many times by the officiating that I'm just numb to it at this point. I quit watching virtually all Big Ten basketball over it. I don't have cable anymore so at least I'm not paying to watch us get gangbanged by the zebras every week.

At the end of the day, while it was PI, the odds of that pass landing even without the PI was about 1 in 100 because it was a terrible play trying to throw into triple coverage, so you can't really be that pissed. I didn't really see a lot in the three prior passes to give me hope on that drive, either. Meh.
 
WinOneThisCentury said:
Ok...I know everyone feels that game was one we gifted to a less talented team. I have a couple of thoughts that have kind of bothered me after watching the game again.

Petras - He was crazy nervous starting that game. Wow...you could tell he couldn't calm himself and was anxious to throw everything quick and hard. The cool thing is that he settled down and showed what he can do. He was really good in the second and much of the third quarter. This dude is going to be really good. My take is that he was hurt the most by not having a few non-conference cupcakes to cut his teeth on.

Defense - Disappointing - you can't let a QB sit back there. Phil brought more blitz packages in the first half than the second it seemed. Strange. The linebacker and DE play in the run game wasn't good. You have to hit a dude like that below the waist.

Officiating - They didn't cost us the game...Iowa cost themselves the game. You can't miss that many plays and guys wide open...and then have over 100 yards in penalties...and then turn the ball over in the red zone twice. That being said...several holding calls on Golston weren't called. The final play...that dude has his hand grabbing Ragaini's shoulder pad for 10 full yards...then when the ball arrives...he yanks to pull himself in position? How in the hell is that not pass interference? The irony is that we lost on that same call the last time we were in that stadium. They called it on us. Purdue has a serious home field advantage.
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I guess I have been holding this in for several years. Defense: I get so frustrated that I actually yell at the tv screen. TACKLE THE F**KING LEGS!! I'm so damn tired of watching our guys piling on the back and/or upper torso of a running back/WR/ or other skill-player from the other team, then watch them carry 3 or 4 of our defensive players 6 yards downfield. My God, 8th-grade kids are taught to tackle and wrap up the legs/knees/feet! Apparently, that doesn't matter in college. Another strike against Phil. Parker: what the hell are you doing??
 
okeefe4prez said:
Getting pissed does nothing. Yes, it was a terrible call. Big deal. We've gotten screwed so many times by the officiating that I'm just numb to it at this point. I quit watching virtually all Big Ten basketball over it. I don't have cable anymore so at least I'm not paying to watch us get gangbanged by the zebras every week.

At the end of the day, while it was PI, the odds of that pass landing even without the PI was about 1 in 100 because it was a terrible play trying to throw into triple coverage, so you can't really be that pissed. I didn't really see a lot in the three prior passes to give me hope on that drive, either. Meh.
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Well...if it's that blatant it should be called period. The official on the play swallowed the whistle. It doesn't matter if there were three guys there or not. The hold, or interference started happening ten yards earlier and well in advance of the throw arriving. Watch the play.

Was it a poor choice of receiver? Maybe. ISM on the other side, one on one and the corner was giving him room. He could have gone ten yards and turned and he would have been wide open. That's where the ball should have gone.
 
Look at the bright side. At least it was Purdue and not the Clowns. I know they lost that opener to LA Lafayette, but the Clowns have improved dramatically. I would hate to play them as we stand currently.
 
TJHawkeye said:
Watched Bell continually get open. He would launch from the line and then just jog into a hole in the zone and wait for the ball. Phil has work to do.
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Well more than one of us fans were calling on tight man to man on Bell, man to man/double coverage. My gawd we got lucky Moore wasnt playing then we didnt take away their only big time receiver. That was a big mess up.

And as someone said Gholston was held big time on several occasions. The refs just have to throw those flags early in a game to make it known to the offensive players to play it clean.

There was good play by the defense but just not consistently top notch. Their big back wore on the Dee
 
This team had a lot of extra time to get ready and wasn’t.

OL was a mess of penalties
DL got zero pressure
DB couldn’t cover anyone.
6WR was frustrated all game
Parker couldn’t figure out how to stop 3WR from getting 15 catches on 21 attempts
BrianF couldn’t figure out how to get Iowa’s best playmaker 6WR a catch.

totally without focus.

teams with off-season off-field problems have crap seasons.

This will be a crap season.
 
OK that Mike Alstott reincarnation of a Purdue fullback has now fumbled twice. And he was tentative as he near the goal line on anotner possession (where Bell bailed them out with another great catch)

Why couldn't he have coughed it up twice last week?
 
Northside Hawk said:
OK that Mike Alstott reincarnation of a Purdue fullback has now fumbled twice. And he was tentative as he near the goal line on anotner possession (where Bell bailed them out with another great catch)

Why couldn't he have coughed it up twice last week?
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He was too busy hanging on to the fball with both hands, whilst dragging 5 Hawks down the field for another 7 yards.
 
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