Press Foot Notes 8/30: True Freshmen, Injury Update, Position Battles
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BigD
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Thanks Rob for he info.
Not real thrilled about CJ have limited mobility if he wears the brace. Would like to see what he can do without these hinderinces. Hopefully he will recover quickly and it won't be anything that lingers. I know he said he may or may not wear the brace on Saturday but that's sounds very iffy and if I know KF he will not want to take any chances.
Not real thrilled about CJ have limited mobility if he wears the brace. Would like to see what he can do without these hinderinces. Hopefully he will recover quickly and it won't be anything that lingers. I know he said he may or may not wear the brace on Saturday but that's sounds very iffy and if I know KF he will not want to take any chances.
How well the hawks do doesn't depend on CJ, just like it didn't last year. All he has to do is 'game manage' like he did last year and not turn the ball over and pick up a 1st down every now and then with his feet.....any one who thinks HE was the difference last year is a fool....stats don't lie
Agree. I don't want to start another Jake vs CJ debate. I'll just say that Iowa's margin for error is slim, and last year CJ made big plays at big times that in my humble opinion were the difference between 12-0 and 8-4. The defense gets the credit for Wisconsin though.
deanvogs
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You are trying to hard on this one. We get it that this is a team sport, and it takes more than a QB. Yet if you have watched any college football, a QB can really elevate a college team.
DP5555
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GesterHawk
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I wouldn't be surprised to see him come out Saturday with the brace on against Miami OH. No reason to risk anything this weekend. I am hoping he won't need to do a whole lot with his feet this week.
Probably be a 2/3 run and 1/3 pass game anyway. Will show next to nothing Saturday. Daniels, Wadley, etc. better get some rest cause they will be hauling the mail all day on Saturday.
The board has been slow this week. Although there is some truth to my post, I thought it would be funny if someone would actually start the JR vs. CJ debate AGAIN!
I watched the MSU game on TV for the first time yesterday (Finally had the stomach for it). They showed a stat where CJ was top 5 or 10 in the nation for qb's running for a first down. I was fast forwarding between plays so I barely caught it. Anyone remember exactly what that stat was?
damnfinn
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your a hootThe board has been slow this week. Although there is some truth to my post, I thought it would be funny if someone would actually start the JR vs. CJ debate AGAIN!
proudhawkfan21
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I was a Jake rudock apologist. If there is a way to go back and look at OLD posts you'll see me defending Rudock as a good qb who was just a good soldier. If the coaches said be conservative and check it down 90% and gamble 10% he took it as his duty to follow orders. The orders really were there to just tell him to be a game manager and take care of the football. Rudock didn't take over the game or his role as difference maker or clutch performer. He simply managed the game and didn't take the risks inherent with being a leader. He led in his own way, but this team needed a general or a playmaker. To say that Beathard is not perhaps the most important difference with last year's team..no not THE reason, but the most important reason....is simply ignoring reality. Stats have nothing to do with it. Leadership ability is the difference. Rudock is no slouch, but the facts are that last year's team needed a general to follow..not someone trying to avoid mistakes. Cj led by example. He dove over the top. He made the big throw. He didn't slide when everyone said "go down." He didn't 3 and out and hope the defense held, he threw it deep over the middle in the b10 championship and out his team in position to dream big. Yes, CJ was the biggest difference between great success and above avg returns.
THE DEFENSE WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT REASON. THE RUN GAME THE SECOND MOST. THE PASSING GAME NUMBERS WERE ABOUT THE SAME....Yeah, like Rudock won't dive.... as I have said numerous times, Jake completed more long passes in 2014 than CJ did in 2015...do the research. It's not that I don't think CJ is a good QB, but he was NOT the difference between 2014 and 2015....Period!!! The 'facts' and stats support my argument.....
Ickehawk the defense knew that ruddock couldn't and wouldn't complete the downfield pass and that was blatantly obvious. Cj was the reason the team had success last year. Not solely, but defenses respected him. If u didn't see that then I don't know what to tell you. I dont know if it was ruddock or the play calling but the defenses knew exactly what do do vs our offense in 2014. Maryland. Ball state. Isu. Need I go on
deanvogs
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LOL, so if Jake completes more long passes he would lead us to as many wins? The D was better in '15, but we have had much, much better Defenses in the past than last years D, and we couldn't win 12 games. I noticed you also didn't mention that Iowa's offense was about 2 PPG better than the '14 offense, and that was with a 50% healthy CJ running the O. It would have been heads and shoulders above that if he were operating at 100%.
There is no way that you can possibly say that Jake could have led the '15 team to a 12-0 season. There is no way that you can prove that. I on the other hand can prove to you that if CJ were the QB in '15 that he would lead Iowa to it's first and only 12-0 regular season in it's entire history.
So you can keep tilting at windmills and pretending that you know for some fact that a Jake R. lead team would win 12 games, when there is no way to prove such a thing.
LOL! That's all I can say........As soon as you said 'the defenses knew exactly what do do vs. our offense..., I couldn't take you seriously anymore. Have a couple beers and enjoy the game Sat. and try to refrain from 'commenting' on it...JR couldn't and wouldn't complete the down field pass...lol. Do I have to compile all of it for you? I've told you people numerous times that JR completed more 'long' passes than CJ did and THAT IS A FACT!!! Amazing.........
Well, all you 'experts' (lol) keep saying that CJ would have led us to a better record in 2014. Let's see you 'prove' that. There is no way you can 'prove' that JR WOULDN'T have led us to a 12-0 record in 2015. You're proving MY point for me....
deanvogs
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I don't recall saying CJ would have led us to a better '14 season, that was others. I am pretty sure YOU did mock those that said that.....so should you mock yourself for thinking Jake could have done what CJ did?
Listen man I don't give you crap when you are making a good and valid football X's and O's point. Yet this isn't it, this is actually your OPINION of why Iowa was better. You say the 5 PPG allowed better D lead to wins. I say that Iowa's 2 PPG increased scoring playing a QB at 50% tells you how tough and good of a leader that player is. It is an opinion, there is not fact or stat that you can quote that would prove Jake could have led us to 12-0 as well.
