Penn State sanctions reduced?

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hawkeyebob62

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Just heard on radio that Penn State will have sanctions reduced via adding back scholarships beginning in a couple seasons.

While I thought they were unduly and harshly treated/penalized, and deplored the quasi-emotional/feel-superior attitudes of certain posters here, does anyone feel--as I do--that this still sets a bad precedent?

How soon before the NCAA not only becomes 100% irrelevant when it comes to "punishment", but, given Johnny Football's 30-minute suspension, various $EC and Big 12 players playing on in spite of allegations of improper benefits, etc., while O$U gets hammered with players getting one to five games (which ultimately "cost" them a player), and PSU even lost $ilas Redd to U$C (laughable given THEY were recently on probation)...

It would seem to me that B1G may be wise to seek out another conference (for a little solidarity), along with FOx Sports, shore up good media partners and tell the NCAA, "That's it. We're through with you"

Does it seem possible this would happen? Does it seem plausible it would even work?

EDIT My main point is this: while I am happy for PSU, it seems to me the whole reason for this is because the NCAA "knows" they overstepped, or worse, knows something ELSE about the whole situation that might lead to bigger issues within the NCAA itself. One of those might be the disparity in investigative procedures and penalties for one set of schools vs. another set of schools.
 
This is BS. They covered up child rape. Period. Everyone at the program had the opportunity to leave. Those who are there have chosen to be associated with a program that put football over child rape. They deserve everything they get. Fact.
 
They should of got the death penalty. They are getting of easily. The NCAA is already going down the road of being irrelevant. Only trouble is there isn't anyone to take their place.
 
Reduced punishment? Yeah, sets a bad precedent IMO.

Iowa may as well start cheating too, because it's obvious that the "penalties" are a joke. What's the worst that's going to happen? (My attitude here being case in point about this setting a bad precedent, and not much of a deterrent to future unethical behavior)
 
I can't stand the NCAA, they're a freaking joke of a governing body. I don't necessarily think that the punishment they brought down on PSU was too harsh, but the penalties they enforced on OSU definitely were. If it was an SEC team, the players would've gotten suspended for a game, tops. With no other repercussions, except a minimal one against the coach.
 
1977Hawkeye said:
Reduced punishment? Yeah, sets a bad precedent IMO.

Iowa may as well start cheating too, because it's obvious that the "penalties" are a joke. What's the worst that's going to happen? (My attitude here being case in point about this setting a bad precedent, and not much of a deterrent to future unethical behavior)
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Actually, it seems as though the B10 is the only conference that actually receives any sort of penalties, that aren't a joke. So that may not be a good idea, because the NCAA would gobble it up.
 
Absolutely ridiculous, because Penn State has had to suffer for a whole year they are getting scholarships back. The NCAA said because Penn State is running its athletic programs with integrity they are restoring 5 scholarships with more to come. Please correct me if I am wrong. Because Penn State is doing what it is supposed to do and expected to do on a daily basis their penalties are being lessened. I don't feel sorry for Penn State at all. They absolutely covered things up even though they pretended not to know. Why does anybody think the NCAA governing committee is a joke. They have no credibility at all. They took care of the Manziel situation in 15 minutes while Miami is sitting on 2-3 years with no decision in sight. I know when they hit Miami it's going to be hard and you can bet they aren't going to be shown any leniency going forward. Now I don't feel sorry for Miami either but if I was running any school that has been penalized I would be appealing that immediately. Let's see the NCAA try to dig out of the mess they've created now.
 
I was disappointed by Ferentz's response to this. No it was not the current players fault, but it was definitely Penn State's fault. In my mind this is the worst kind of offense and I think should be punishable by life in prison. Child molestation is horrible. Period. I would suggest everyone read Howe's piece on hawkeyeinsider.com
 
LA Times

USC wants in on this reduction action too. From article:

Kiffin said Tuesday it was "awesome" that Penn State's punishment would be reduced and that USC deserved the same consideration.
 
The NCAA overstepped their bounds to begin with. This has been and always will be a legal issue, not a Sports issue. You can say all you want to me about who did what and when, but criminal acts happened here.

Should every program be penalized if a player rapes a girl, if not what is the difference? Do not throw it back at me and say because these were children, rape is rape. Is it disturbing and wrong and any other adjective you can think of yes, but it is a crime nonetheless.

There are legal matters that are taking place, this was not a 'football' issue, it was an institutional issue and something that should not have happened. I still to this day have the biggest problem with McQueary in this whole ordeal by witnessing what he saw/heard or whatever as an unpaid grad assistant, but is so distraught he takes a job with the same staff? Now he is suing Penn State?

Was there a cover up of some sort? Yes, but this is not a 'football' issue, it happens to involve a person on the staff, I know this is far from a popular opinion, so fire away. The precedent the NCAA took to begin with was wrong and now they are trying to do God knows what now.
 
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